Originally Posted by Devilpoker78
Ok guys thanks alot for your opinions I appreciate it. Bascially between 5-10 x BB means its time to move. Ive never thought of that before, not until im like 3 x BB which is quite frankly a bit too late in certain cases.
Yep, you HAVE to start making moves while you still have enough to bluff. I personally start if I'm around 15x the big blind, because usually if you do get a hand and go in with it, playing it normally and losing it could mean you're out of the picture.
I don't go all-in. I don't risk all of my chips to steal blinds. If I'm in good position I'll usually make a good sized raise (one you know people will usually not call, because sometimes when the blinds are that high people may not even want to call just a little 3x bet), with whatever I have. A lot of times you'll end up with some blinds. You can't do it often enough that everyone notices, and you can't always do it to the same people. They'll call you on it. My goal at that point is to just grab enough in one round to put me through the blinds for free.
At this point in the tourney you NEED to be aggressive. Being tight isn't going to work unless you're grabbing some good cards, but a lot of the times you won't be, and with the blinds so high at this point sitting and waiting is going to do more harm than good.
I say moving much earlier is the way to go. No point in waiting because you'll be struggling to hang on at that point. If you start early and don't bet all your chips to steal blinds (players tend to associate all-ins at the end like that as weakness and just trying to steal the blinds, I get called much less by just doing a decent raise) then you'll probably end up having enough chips to last you til even later in the tourney. If you're not aggressive, you may come out of playing for 4 hours with $3. If you're aggressive, sometimes you may not quite make it to the money, but often times when you do you'll have enough to make it a lot farther into the money, and get enough to be worth your time.
Phew. Long post. My head hurts.