dj11
Legend
Silver Level
Being barely a profitable ring guy, I'm gonna suggest that it would be valid in both, and approximately equally valid in both. The things that differentiate ring vs tourney are less about the play of the hand than how much and when, and who.
But then I would consider my forte to be tourney, that is if I had a forte.
But then I would consider my forte to be tourney, that is if I had a forte.
Chiefer
Legend
Silver Level
the gap concept is important to know and understand, but i feel that it is not something that you should live and die by. huge pot odds could negate it all together. if i'm in the small blind with 5 other limpers, i'm getting huge odds to call no matter what i'm holding.
to answer your question, i think it is a valid concept in cash games, but just like DJ, i'm not a big cash player either.
to answer your question, i think it is a valid concept in cash games, but just like DJ, i'm not a big cash player either.
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tenbob
Legend
Silver Level
More a concept for low M situations in mid to late MTT situations IMO. Even more important in STT's in and around the bubble, combine it with a knowledge of ICM and your onto a big winner in mid to low stakes games.
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Brann6
Rock Star
Silver Level
Mase31683
Legend
Silver Level
Okay, I'm a cash-gamer, and yes the gap concept applies to those. Tournament poker is not this thing unto itself. It's poker, and winning tournaments comes from playing solid, winning poker, not tournament poker.
The gap concept is extremely important in cash play. For example if UTG opens with a PFR%= 3% and you look down at AQs, well then you better be tossing that since your equity is somewhere in the 35% range.
But then if villian's utg opening range is 10%, now you have a profitable hand, with a little over 50% equity.
The same principles hold true, if you're going to play a hand, you want your hand to be better than the range your opponnent is willing to play from his position.
This "rule" fluctates as stack sizes change, becoming more important as stacks shrink, and less important as they grow. Once stacks get above ~ 150bb's then speculative hands start to gain a lot of value, and "big" hands like AA, KK, AK, become lesser holdings. This normalization of preflop holdings is a function of betting occurring over several rounds rather than getting all the money in preflop and on the flop. Additionally, the importance of the gap concept is inversely proportional to stack sizes. When stacks are small, < 40bb's, the gap concept is of extreme importance, as you have little time to catch up before all the chips are in. Hands that are best preflop and on the flop are the big winners. However once the stacks get deeper, suited connectors and small pp's have enough wiggle room to take some flops, and win a monster pot here or there against those AA's, which allows them to played profitably against them, which in turn lends itself to caring less about having the best hand preflop, and more about having the best hand when all the chips get in the center of the table.
The gap concept is extremely important in cash play. For example if UTG opens with a PFR%= 3% and you look down at AQs, well then you better be tossing that since your equity is somewhere in the 35% range.
But then if villian's utg opening range is 10%, now you have a profitable hand, with a little over 50% equity.
The same principles hold true, if you're going to play a hand, you want your hand to be better than the range your opponnent is willing to play from his position.
This "rule" fluctates as stack sizes change, becoming more important as stacks shrink, and less important as they grow. Once stacks get above ~ 150bb's then speculative hands start to gain a lot of value, and "big" hands like AA, KK, AK, become lesser holdings. This normalization of preflop holdings is a function of betting occurring over several rounds rather than getting all the money in preflop and on the flop. Additionally, the importance of the gap concept is inversely proportional to stack sizes. When stacks are small, < 40bb's, the gap concept is of extreme importance, as you have little time to catch up before all the chips are in. Hands that are best preflop and on the flop are the big winners. However once the stacks get deeper, suited connectors and small pp's have enough wiggle room to take some flops, and win a monster pot here or there against those AA's, which allows them to played profitably against them, which in turn lends itself to caring less about having the best hand preflop, and more about having the best hand when all the chips get in the center of the table.
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