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Just wondering if a vpip of 10 in full ring cash games is too tight and to maximise winnings to loosen up a little to say vpip of around 14.
 
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I think in general thats a bit too tight but if you're playing 2nl then it could be more profitable because you will get paid for your big hands anyway. Who knows these things?
 
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If you are playing the same level as me (2nl) then you should have a lot of success with that level of VPIP. I currently play 12/10 and it's been fairly successful. Now I can't say for sure but it will probably be around 10nl-25nl when you might have to open up and adapt your strategy.
 
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I am around 15-16 and results have been OK except that I am in the middle of a rough patch right now. Doing around 13.3 bb/100 overall while trying to plug big leaks in my game.
 
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There is no "optimal" VPIP that you can cite for all players. First of all, style is an important factor, and playing within your own will cause you to have a different VPIP from what some say is optimal.

Also, if we could define an "optimal VPIP" it would depend on a number of factors including, but not limited to the site and limit you play at. Additionally, your VPIP should differ from session to session or table to table since table dynamics should affect your ranges somewhat.

However, at very low stakes like 2nl, tight is usually right, so I would say anything as low as 10% (with about 8% PFR) CAN be profitable. However, I would also say that going a bit higher to about 15% (with a PFR around 13%) is probably going to increase your profitability, since at those limits, you will still see people paying you off with very bad hands.
 
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OK thanks for clearing that up I have during a few sessions tried to play a wider range off hands yet am always put in very difficult spots especially post flop also have another question if I'm in position and facing a middle position open and I am holding ak against an unknown opponent at the microstakes hooow should I proceed 3bet or just cold call in position
 
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Tbh it all depends on the table you're sitting at. If you are up against really nitty players who just insta muck when they whiff the flop, playing something like 20ish can be really profitable.

On the other hand, if you are up against super loose maniacs tight is right.

After all, it all comes down to your own style. If you aren't comfortable post flop, then play tighter since you won't end up in as many marginal spots as you will when playing looser.

I am playing 17/18 ish in FR and it has been really profitable for me.
 
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Thanks a lot really helped me was worryied I was playing a little tight but I see its best for me as my post flop play is pretty poor ATM as my post flop play improves I will try and loosen up slightly
Thanks again
 
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It all depends on the table, loose players play tight, nits loosen up a little. Hammer the nits till they defend themselves.
 
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I am around 15-16 and results have been OK except that I am in the middle of a rough patch right now. Doing around 13.3 bb/100 overall while trying to plug big leaks in my game.
Lol I thought at first that you were saying your rough patch was only winning 13.3 bb/100 woops :)
 
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UGH, playing FR is like watching paint dry. 10 VPIP, 11 VPIP. such a nit fest lol.

All joking aside, why do people optimize their playing by trying to be in a certain range of stats? Granted this could be a solid way to find leaks, but confining yourself to specefic and making sure you are within said range only goes so far imo.

Obviously playing a 50 vpip may not be optimal, but at times it could be the right style based on the table. Dont use VPIP stats to base what you should be playing is what im getting at. Its good to aware of this but dont put much stock into it
 
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