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pairs of KK, I get the clean hand and I am in MP2, I raise standard 2.5bb, they all retire until they reach the BTN which pays, the mowings are removed. community cards A spades, 5 diamonds and 6 diamonds. what would be his play for the following streets
 
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Playing a large pocket pair vs. overcards on the board

I would not fold, I would not go all-in. I would make a solid half-pot sized bet and see the reaction. If I get re-raised big I would fold. If I get raised to just the pot or called I would like to see at least one more card. Then I would check to see what he does and if it's a small bet then I would call. If it's a half-pot sized bet or higher I would just fold at that point. but too many people play aces to risk an entire stack on KK against an Ace on the board.
 
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I already did that and rode the flop. The best way is to wait for the flop but bet 3BB
 
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I think I would take a similar route as Jonathan. Bet half pot on the flop. If he raises, then I fold. Check on the turn as I can't see many hands calling with a mid/low pair. I'm probably beat if he calls the turn. If he checks back on the turn then I can get a little more value and put him on a draw.
 
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3BB(all in preflop if someone is all in), and will see after flop;););)
 
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I would not fold, I would not go all-in. I would make a solid half-pot sized bet and see the reaction. If I get re-raised big I would fold. If I get raised to just the pot or called I would like to see at least one more card. Then I would check to see what he does and if it's a small bet then I would call. If it's a half-pot sized bet or higher I would just fold at that point. but too many people play aces to risk an entire stack on KK against an Ace on the board.

I already did that and rode the flop. The best way is to wait for the flop but bet 3BB
3BB with KK is too low, you should be betting 4BB + 1BB for every other player who has entered the pot preflop, this may be outdated thinking, but it has worked for me..........most times.
 
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If you have enough hands, look at his stats and how often he folds to Cbets. If he folds often- bet your half pot or slightly less and if he stays, you just check it through or fold. If he never folds to cbet maybe try a pot control line and try to keep the pot as small as possible.
 
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I think I would take a similar route as Jonathan. Bet half pot on the flop. If he raises, then I fold. Check on the turn as I can't see many hands calling with a mid/low pair. I'm probably beat if he calls the turn. If he checks back on the turn then I can get a little more value and put him on a draw.


I think the best thing to do is to trap the flops, of course, that depends on the situation:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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Most times button pays with A2s+, K2s+, Q8s+, JT, 54s+, 65o+, 75s-J9s, 22+: The most hands of his range doesn't hit the flop, play without fear, if he is passive he will pay a lot, if he is maniac, he probably will raise, if he is Nit, he just continue if having a good hand... READ YOUR OPONENT!!!
 
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Trap=check on the flop? I don't think he can put you on an ace or KK even if you cbet the flop. If I was villain, I'd pay to see at least one more card given that I have a mid/low pair. The check on the turn is pot control in case villain has an A and it also looks like you tried to buy the pot on the flop.
 
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Just bet, he could have a lot of 98s 109s QJ, Q10 J10, 77+ so wtf you are talking about all in
 
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very grateful for his contribution has helped me a lot. Thank you

Another thing that usually happens to me a lot, is that in every 8 out of 10 hands, that I face a color project, having the best hand before it materializes, I lose my hand because the color is completed, I would like give me a strategy to deal with this type of situation?
 
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5 bet, if one for one is 3 bet or all in, since we do not need to let in an ace with a deuce or a triple, well, after waiting for the opponent's actions. Most often you will win, but it is clear once in 3-4 games the opponent will catch his ace, but this game and nowhere can not get away. This is an aggressive version, there is an even quieter version, if there are a lot of players, you can go 3 betting, and see the flop, if there is not an ace on the board, you can press, although you also have to look at the straight flush draw.
 
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Generally speaking, CALLING all in with second paid is a loosing proposition. There are specific villains who shove bluff the flop, but without specific information on that opponent, you need to fold. Its ok to lose some small pots, but losing big pots will break you real quick. Win the min/max battle.
 
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The mp2 has a lot of weak/middling suited Aces in its open range- value bet as if that was your holding and try and get to showdown cheap, your hand will still be good a lot of the time especially against a single caller on the button. Remember since he called his hand is capped and he cant have AK which you block or AQ or AJs because he would have 3-bet with them. This allows you to apply pressure because you can have these hands so you might be able to bluff him off his weak ace if you think he is a thinking player.
 
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With this card, I always go all in. But I'm not an experienced player, I'm not saying that I'm doing everything right.
 
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I think the correct raise is between 4 and 6 BB, because you avoid SB and BB limp to get some projects and if in flop have an ace make a cbet with your KK about mid pot and see the reaction of your oponent and the same with turn, if any raise happen in turn or river is time to fold.
 
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Should have raised Bigger on Preflop and should have made a C-Bet on flop but fold to any reraise there
 
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3BB(all in preflop if someone is all in),
 
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In this situation, I would go all in, pocket kings need to be played, because most likely the enemy is bluffing:D
 
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AA QQ KK Reise - 3 bet - all in. Eazy strat in distans
 
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I like this line you could take as it employs small ball poker which is really advantageous to use to assess the situation, may have its drawbacks as it may not always get maximum value but in this age of aggro player all you have to do is check :D but we never learn, lol :D


I would not fold, I would not go all-in. I would make a solid half-pot sized bet and see the reaction. If I get re-raised big I would fold. If I get raised to just the pot or called I would like to see at least one more card. Then I would check to see what he does and if it's a small bet then I would call. If it's a half-pot sized bet or higher I would just fold at that point. but too many people play aces to risk an entire stack on KK against an Ace on the board.
 
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I would give 3/4 of the pot and look at the reaction of the opponent.

After that, he made a decision: fold or all inn
 
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You have to bet the flop as you will be betting all your Ax hands as well as sets here. You need to have some bet/fold hands, and KK tops that list.


Bet 1/2 to 2/3 pot then evaluate the turn and possibly river. You get so many folds here, and sometimes you spike a K on the turn
 
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go 4-5 BB and go all in after flop
 
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