Originally Posted by cardplayer52
fold equity isn't just the chance someone will fold. it's the amount of equity you gain be getting them to fold the hand. eg your HU in a $100 pot. its a coin flip so you have exactly 50% equity in the pot. we got the same size stack as the villain and lets say if you don't shove it will be checked down. but lets also say those times you do shove the villain calls 80% of the time and fold 20% of the time. what actually happens is you gain 20% of of the villain's 50% equity in the pot the times he folds. so by shoving your hand EV is 60% so you have 10% FE when you shove.
Yarr i understand what you mean. I'm calculating showdown equity seperately using pokerstove in a different part of the equation. I just need to know what fold equity I had V's 2 opponents.
This was the equation i used for the number crunching session for open shoves in 4 way pots as a short stack.
x - ICM equity if we just open fold
a - losing % of called showdowns
b - ICM equity after losing the showdown
c - winning % of called showdowns
d - ICM equity after winning the showdown
e - calling range %
f - ICM equity after villain folds to shove
g - fold range (fold equity alone) %
x < (((a*b)+(c*d)*e))+(f*g)
if x is less than the result from this equation then the shove>fold
I don't know if there's a more simple way of doing this anyone..? I'm just trying to calculate the peak M figure for shoves if different situations until it's engrained into the brain.
Obviously the calcs are adjusted and a bit longer for shoving on the button because you have to take into account the call/call line as well as the fold/fold and call/fold.
Anyhoo I just needed to check that we multiply the %'s for 2 opponents.
I hope this all made sense, I'm a bit tired atm.