flopping trips on wet boards when out of position

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What are some of the lines you take when say you get to a flop cheaply with suited connectors or something similar, and flop trips (3 of a kind)? Esp when first to act or early to act?

And by trips I mean you hold 1 of the three, not a pocket pair hitting a set.

For example we hold 89s and call a min raise preflop with 4 others already in, flop comes 848 with two of one suit (not ours) and we're first to act.

I'm trying to figure out if I'm leaving value on the table by not check/raising these spots more...but at same time I don't want to give out free turn cards.
 
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It really depends on your opponents - I tend to lead for half pot in these situations - It will help give you an idea of where you're opponent is at in the hand.
 
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It depends on what kind opponent you are facing. For agro players I would generally let them bluff at the pot on the turn but bet on the flop. Then against calling stations I rather keep the pot small as possible because there's been way too many times when they catch that card to beat your trips. Hope that helps
 
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There's many players in the hand, I will bet 1/2 or 1 pot, to play against less players, if comes another card with the same suit I will bet, I can fold if anyone make something that represent 8 with better kick or full, I can call one bet if theres a flush on the turn I can try a fullhouse in the river if it cost me low chips
 
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It really depends on your opponents - I tend to lead for half pot in these situations - It will help give you an idea of where you're opponent is at in the hand.
^probably the best play

To be fair, you might've gotten yourself into trouble by calling something like that from the small blind. Your range on sb should be a lot tighter than your big. You may have hit the trips but now you're at a risk of being trapped. But as others have said it really depends on the players at the table and how wide you've noticed their ranges to be.

With that said - This is a position where you could actually have an advantage. You're early, out of position and most would think it's unlikely that you'd call with mid-range connectors and, they're likely to be holding a face card with rags due to their position and just raising/calling the minimum. But you do have to be scared of a slow-played monster or a pocket 4 that hit on the board, once again, pretty unlikely.

Donk betting here would be a decent play because:
1 - You gain information on those left in the pot when they call/raise,
2 - You can minimize the players in the pot thus possibly increasing your equity and,
3 - You could take it down right there and then.

An aggressive play is probably wise - plus you're probably ahead by a decent amount of the time given the board.

Put a decent bet out there and see if anybody calls. They've probably got a/k, a/q, a high pair or a face card with the 4, all of which you have dominated. If a face card comes on the turn/river, you may be beat so you can either three barrel it and hope you hand holds up, or you can slow down and just call it out if you still feel strong.

But as most have said, it depends on the players, if they're bluffers you might want to call a bet or fire into them to scare them off. If they call again, they've probably got something big, but still, unlikely to be the boat. Judgement call there.

You're definitely likely to be ahead most of the time, less likely up against a boat, and even less likely a kicker race.

My two cents.
 
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It really depends on your opponents - I tend to lead for half pot in these situations - It will help give you an idea of where you're opponent is at in the hand.

Thanks, half pot sounds good.

It depends on what kind opponent you are facing. For agro players I would generally let them bluff at the pot on the turn but bet on the flop. Then against calling stations I rather keep the pot small as possible because there's been way too many times when they catch that card to beat your trips. Hope that helps

Good point but then again what are the calling stations catching on the flop and turn (if no 3rd of same suit falls on turn)? If they flop a boat then gg, but they'd have to hit their set on turn for a boat which isn't happening that often.

There's many players in the hand, I will bet 1/2 or 1 pot, to play against less players, if comes another card with the same suit I will bet, I can fold if anyone make something that represent 8 with better kick or full, I can call one bet if theres a flush on the turn I can try a fullhouse in the river if it cost me low chips

Good strategy it seems like.

^probably the best play

To be fair, you might've gotten yourself into trouble by calling something like that from the small blind. Your range on sb should be a lot tighter than your big. You may have hit the trips but now you're at a risk of being trapped. But as others have said it really depends on the players at the table and how wide you've noticed their ranges to be.

With that said - This is a position where you could actually have an advantage. You're early, out of position and most would think it's unlikely that you'd call with mid-range connectors and, they're likely to be holding a face card with rags due to their position and just raising/calling the minimum. But you do have to be scared of a slow-played monster or a pocket 4 that hit on the board, once again, pretty unlikely.

Donk betting here would be a decent play because:
1 - You gain information on those left in the pot when they call/raise,
2 - You can minimize the players in the pot thus possibly increasing your equity and,
3 - You could take it down right there and then.

An aggressive play is probably wise - plus you're probably ahead by a decent amount of the time given the board.

Put a decent bet out there and see if anybody calls. They've probably got a/k, a/q, a high pair or a face card with the 4, all of which you have dominated. If a face card comes on the turn/river, you may be beat so you can either three barrel it and hope you hand holds up, or you can slow down and just call it out if you still feel strong.

But as most have said, it depends on the players, if they're bluffers you might want to call a bet or fire into them to scare them off. If they call again, they've probably got something big, but still, unlikely to be the boat. Judgement call there.

You're definitely likely to be ahead most of the time, less likely up against a boat, and even less likely a kicker race.

My two cents.

Thanks for your 2 cents. I agree with making a bet to see where we're at of course. And yeah I wouldn't call a big raise pre in SB with that kind of junk.
 
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his main problem is that he should not get into that clear hand, if I go in very free I should be careful with which letters came in. There may even be someone with that same 8 since it was a cheap flop, some looking for color or stairs. if there are already strong bets and the one that stays will be looking for something or already has something controls the boat without going into panic
 
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If you lead out and get called, the probabilities of your opponents betting on turn/river significantly. However, if it is a multi-way pot i would lead out most of the time,
 
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