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Is floating on a draw heavy board worth it, if you feel your opponent isn't super strong and is a tight player who folds a lot? I mean if you float in position and the draw hits, they kind of have to fold, right? But if you miss, it can cost ya...

I dunno, just seems like an interesting idea...

I guess it depends on if you are getting the "odds" to the draw, and then it can be a profitable play...
 
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for me floating comes down to if I have enough chips to float and if the board texture favors me floating. Also if I perceive my opponent to be weaker than me or also on a draw it might give me a bit more incentive to check call it down as well. Very situational I guess on position too and stack depths.
 
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pokerpie said:
for me floating comes down to if I have enough chips to float and if the board texture favors me floating. Also if I perceive my opponent to be weaker than me or also on a draw it might give me a bit more incentive to check call it down as well. Very situational I guess on position too and stack depths.
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Well said. Kind of answer I was looking for.
 
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I suppose floating just to bluff certain cards is ridiculous tho...
 
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If My goal is to try and take the pot down regardless of what hits then yes , Floating to a Fold Machine is worth it. I mean yes it can be costly but so can Preflop aces . Every hand has a cost, just depends on how much I'm willing to invest overall. I take everything into account before trying to chase down a draw
 
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FrothyGoodness said:
If My goal is to try and take the pot down regardless of what hits then yes , Floating to a Fold Machine is worth it. I mean yes it can be costly but so can Preflop aces . Every hand has a cost, just depends on how much I'm willing to invest overall. I take everything into account before trying to chase down a draw
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Fold Machine haha nice. I used to think of them as "Nits." Or a mouse, in Phil Hellmuth's terminology. Very cool to think about...
 
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This is very bad. If I had lost the first 50 dollars, I would have thought about the consequences of such a game.
 
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i think we should only flat out of position and highly coordinated boards. you can reraise against high fold frequencies and get clue about opponent's hand.
 
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blackburn44 said:
i think we should only flat out of position and highly coordinated boards. you can reraise against high fold frequencies and get clue about opponent's hand.
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Yes, we can get a clue about the villain's hand, being the hero.
 
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For me floating comes down to what percentage value do I have. If it’s over 30% then yes, but if it’s a one outer or drawing a knife when a gunfire is more probable? Then no
 
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I always take notes on players who make a continuation bet and then give up on the turn as well as players I have to fire 2 bets to fold. These notes come in handy when deciding who to float against. I generally only float AK.
 
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Float definition.

Tylor Mendez said:
Is floating on a draw heavy board worth it, if you feel your opponent isn't super strong and is a tight player who folds a lot? I mean if you float in position and the draw hits, they kind of have to fold, right? But if you miss, it can cost ya...

I dunno, just seems like an interesting idea...

I guess it depends on if you are getting the "ODDS" to the draw, and then it can be a profitable play...
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Thanks for posting.
Thought I would share this definition of floating as it is helpful to the discussion.

A float is a move where an aggressor is called so that a player may retake the initiative in a later round, provided that the original aggressor allows it. It is a broad term. The call on the flop can be a bluff call, smooth call, or a call for pot control. The term is often used in sense of a bluff.

Float as a Bluff

One does not need a made hand to execute a float, even though the expected value will be elevated when one possesses a draw with which one could win the showdown if it were completed. Calling a continuation bet can be done as a pure bluff to represent a strong hand or slowplay or to show an opponent that the pot will not be easily won and to convince him to give up his bluff.


Hope this helps


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I find the best board to float OOP is a heavy lockdown board like A♦️10♦️2♦️ Or K♠️K♣️4♥️
You can take it down on the river with a good pot size bet
 
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