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Well, after a bad poker 2012 I pretty much stopped in playing last Fall. I did, however, keep coming home after alcohol binges and yell "LETS FIRE UP SOME TABLES,Y'ALL" I cant wait for the day when that works..........:beer:

So I now have completely stopped drinking, since I cannot separate drinking and poker, and the old saying "keep doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity" SOOOOO fits me. I can sit at a game and maybe talk myself into not opening a beer - MAYBE, and rarely at that - but I cant drink a beer and convince myself that poker is a bad idea. Along with, I cant drink just one (Hmm, Lays potato chips.....lol) You can see where this is going. I can sadly see where its gone.

Anyway, I have a self imposed drink stop till April. And its all about poker. I wish I could say that since I stopped I have been running hot, but alas, no. But I will now be active here again, posting hands and getting back in discussions.

I will be posting some bigger pot hands today, some big good and some big bad for me.

One thing I have noticed - this at FTP 10nl - there are a handful of regs who always seem to be on evening times (GMT) who play 6-8 tables. And they always seem to be sitting on 2-300 BB stacks on at least half of their tables.I have maybe 3-500 hands on all of them 3 in particular. I encounter them so far pretty much always at these times. Their VPIP and PFR are pretty bad at a glance. like 53/35, 31/12, 45/20 in that direction. Small sample size over all but enough hands so that I can see real crazy players. But they have other stats like 3bet 15% and squeeze 20%. They will 3bet SB and BB real agro and c/r and do a lot of moves, and generally dont seem to care about putting a lot of money in with agro play, and it is hard for me to know how to adjust. I think they must be bad enough that I can target them to exploit. I look for fish - and BTW at FTP fish are plentiful at the micros - but these guys are often at the same tables. SOOOOO, I want to figure out a way to exploit them. I will be pulling them up in my HEM and trying to find their exploitable leaks. But, for me, it is hard to play agains someone who just doesent seem to care. He think aggression is king (cant be too far off there either) but over uses it IMO.

I also saw a reg last night, who play like 18/15 over 300+, who got all in pre vs - for me anyway - 2 different unknowns. This was in about 5 minutes. And both times he was on AQo. And I was real surprised, since both times he was 3 betting and calling the shove. And of course, the unknowns who call a 3 bet with ATC are there, and then my KK on a dry low board is worth what??? Lost a stick to 86o when I bet he calls - he had like 60/8 so I just kept value betting - OC the 6 and 8 flopped. But ok, I can live with that. I just wonder if I should c/f OTR if he just keeps calling, or how to distinguish between a station who stations all the way and a guy who only stations PRE and when he calls OTF onwards, well, am I in trouble?

OK, ramblings. But I am taking 2 months to actively play and improve - if possible. I sometimes wonder if, after 30+ years of sex drugs and R+R, if my brain is too fried to "get it". Seriously. But since I am now doing my first sincere serious try, i.e. without alcohol, (I am saying it so much cause this time I will stick to it, and if I dont, will be open to ridicule and abuse from you all) and TBO am a bit scared that I realty DONT "have what it takes". But how will I know if I dont give it at least one VERY real try. I have done shitloads of studying and practice, hand reading is my weakest spot I think. There are a few. I believe I have a very good grasp on poker as a whole. But in game, I sometimes dont see stuff that is clear upon review. But, even expessing the doubts I have, I still cling to the belief that I CAN beat 10nl, then 25, then 50 then 100. I have a BR and it will either grow or be gone. (am rolled for higher but wont play higher than 10NL till I am crushing it for obvious reasons). If my BR goes, then poker is a hobby and then I can get smashed and donk the FR games. But that is not my goal.

Well, lets rock.
 
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For the most part just keep vbet/folding unless you have a read or the situation dictates otherwise *

Keep learning (and not drinking) and things will improve. I enjoy a drink, but I never drink and play. Also work on your terminology. Lots of times you would call it a donk when it was a cbet, or a 4bet when it was a 3bet or whatever. I think it might be indicative of a fuzziness of thinking at the table, which is not a good thing. Don't get caught up in the adrenaline of the moment, try to keep your head clear.

Well, gl man.


* haha, remember that sweat hand where you value owned yourself with KQ vs AQ on that Qxxxx board? lmao... but still, just remember if we don't do that from time to time, then we aren't value betting enough.
 
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Hey, it is very good to set oneself a challenge in your case it is even necessary.
To drink AND play is not a good idea at all, just imagine how long it takes sometimes to build the BR up and then burning it in 30 minutes of playing drunken.

I said to myself last year that i was not going to drink any alcohol for 4 month, and it worked out perfectly feeling much better and was much fitter in sports, wasnt a huge challenge regarding that i am not drinking to much anyway, but wanted to test myself if i can say no the whole time ;)
 
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good luck :)

subscribing. should be enjoyable, i think.

as to the aggro players - find the hands where they go to SD and see what they had. if it happens too often that they show up with garbage, then apparently it is time to take some risks and start calling them down lighter...
 
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Poker aside... Congrats on the drinking thing.

I am saying it so much cause this time I will stick to it, and if I dont, will be open to ridicule and abuse from you all

:p

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Subscribed.

You know my view on poker and drinking :p .

Even if you're only a bit better (while I think you'll be definately better than a bit better) might just make the big difference.

Good luck.
 
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I'll drink to that. good luck man. all the best. poker and booze doesnt mix well for me either. i now play much smaller stakes when boozin
 
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good luck finding some form, subbed.
 
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good luck for both of your goals. drinking and gambling=bad idea. coffee is better.nice thread.
 
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Drinking and gambling mix so well together...... But ya I need to stop mixing them also.

Good Luck
 
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Good luck FD, looking forward to your thread, and see you at the tables :)
 
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Thanks for the comments guys.

I had a soul crushing session a few days ago, but managed to not break any coffee cups. I am really trying to make my game go forward this time. I miss my beer, tho. Problem is, it is easy to play and not drink. But if I have a couple, well, as I once stated: A beer makes a new man out of me. The problem with that man is, he wants to play poker.

I am working on many thing in my game. Trying to distinguish spots when it is better to VB - IP or OOP - as opposed to checking or checking behind. Working on range estimating. That seems to be one of my major weak spots.I have been doing pretty good at abusing the agro regs, and am feeling better at the tables with them, regardless of position. I obv. prefer IP seats, but vs 1 or 2 OOP is actually better, since they station and agro spaz spew with 3 bets and stuff. I found a few spots to c/c with the nutz and c/r with a small PP or FD/SD and its working out well so far.

I am enjoying the comments on my HH, and thanks to all who contribute. As always, there is a smart ass here and there, but it adds to the amusement factor....lol.

Had some nice discussion between other players in my HH that is great to read.

One major change I notice is I no longer have a problem with regs at 10nl. They are getting easier for me to play, and I welcome most of them at my tables now. From what I read, 25 nl may not be all that different. I guess 50 and up, things may start to change.

I still am making calls I shouldnt, and making lay downs I shouldnt, but I will keep posting hands, and keep reviewing. And, of course, keep playing with my tea cup full............. of TEA....lol

I posted a hand where I was in between 2 players,and flopped the nut set. I checked OTF, and got a lot of flak for it (Some smart ass comments as well, I dont get that, the guys who feel cool being a dick?? Oh well.) But the census seemed to be - -bet and get it in. But I was afraid that I would simply get too many folds. I want to give a card or, OOP, let someone bet my weakness, I did get a bet to my check, and a call, so I smooth called. That was seen as wrong. One player who I deeply respect, said the check was fine, but I should go for the c/r. So Today I was in 2 very similar hands, where I bet instead. Also had the set or the nut set. Also with 2 players. I bet or c/r and got folds both times. I know we need to build a pot, but I seem to get more folds than I do stacks in in these situations. I will look for the hands later and post.
 
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I don't drink & play...I've only ever known one result, big losses.

Strangely though; it's a tilt cure...however this doesn't weigh out the losses impacted by bad thinking/playing whilst drunk!

GL fletch!
 
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One major change I notice is I no longer have a problem with regs at 10nl. They are getting easier for me to play, and I welcome most of them at my tables now. From what I read, 25 nl may not be all that different. I guess 50 and up, things may start to change.
this is a good sign that you are getting better and learning to see the weaknesses of those players. in my mind, 25 is about the same as 10 in terms of the level of play; you only make decisions which are worth more, one way or the other. i would suggest giving 25nl a shot as soon as you would not be devastated if you lost a few BI on the higher level, perhaps you will find that it is worth it :)

re: donking or c/r when you have a set - both lines will look quite strong and unusual, so it is normal that you would get quite a few folds when you take them. on the other hand, if you would not be getting those folds but forgo the raise, would you be able to get stacks in by the river? the few times when you get someone's stack will more than compensate the many times you would get a fold, as those folds were (most likely) coming anyway later in the hand. there are exceptions to this rule - but they require reads and specific types of opposition.
 
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Things going up and down. But all in all, pretty good. Had some bad sessions, and a lot of variance involved, but I am really feeling good about the way things are starting to make more sense. Still working on range estimation, but getting better..

One lol hand. I at least accomplished my goal of getting them all in pre.

full tilt poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2069635
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $9.90 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 1.2, Hands: 156
Hero (BB): $10.92 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 53542
UTG: $18.55 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 3.3, Hands: 470
MP: $10.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 4.3, Hands: 196
CO: $5.52 - VPIP: 49, PFR: 33, 3B: 14, AF: 31.0, Hands: 61
BTN: $10.35 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 4.2, Hands: 473

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K :diamond: K :club:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, CO raises to $1.30, Hero raises to $3.30, CO raises to $5.30, Hero raises to $7.30, CO calls $0.22 all in

Flop: ($11.09) 9 :spade: 5 :heart: T :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($11.09) 8 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($11.09) 7 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $11.09
Hero shows K :diamond: K :club:
CO shows T :diamond: 5 :diamond:
CO wins $10.36
(Rake: $-1.05)
 
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Ouch, how the ****

I'll be checking in on the thread. Hope your luck turns around FD.
 
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good job that would have been a hard fold after the flop
 
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Ouch, how the ****

I'll be checking in on the thread. Hope your luck turns around FD.


lol, I was gonna post this in your thread, where you spoke about folding QQ pre, just to make you feel better.

It is always opponent specific, but vs many players, stacking QQ+ and AKs pre is a good move. Sometimes even wider, it depends. Once we 4 bet this hand, we aint folding. OC, we are 4 betting to get it in. And, OC, that is always villain dependent.

And thanks for the comments and support everyone.
 
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Trying out HEM 2. Ran real good yesterday. I am really seeing a connection with my physical state and state of mind i.e. am I tired, in a bad mood, impatient or also am I feeling good, confident etc. and my poker game. Of course, I think most of this comes down to how tilt free I can play, and that makes a huge difference in how I make decisions.

Here was a funny hand: I actually did chuckle, but it was probably forced....................

Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2070380
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MP: $12.69 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 10, AF: 3,0, Hands: 153
CO: $12.75 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 11, AF: 1,6, Hands: 211
BTN: $9.85 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 1,1, Hands: 242
SB: $4.90 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 8, 3B: 6, AF: 1,6, Hands: 78
Hero (BB): $13.72 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 2,4, Hands: 18094
UTG: $17.98 - VPIP: 46, PFR: 36, 3B: 5, AF: 3,1, Hands: 525

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 5 :spade: 7 :heart:
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) 9 :club: 6 :club: 8 :heart: (4 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, UTG calls $1.30, MP calls $1.30, SB raises to $4.80, Hero raises to $13.62, UTG raises to $17.88, MP folds

Turn: ($33.74) T :spade: (3 players)

River: ($33.74) 9 :spade: (3 players)

Final Pot: $33.74
SB shows 6 :diamond: 6 :spade:
Hero shows 5 :spade: 7 :heart:
UTG shows 9 :diamond: 9 :heart:
UTG wins $16.71
UTG wins $15.03
(Rake: $2.00)
 
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sick hands, tough when your hands don't hold but what can you do but keep playing until luck turns around.

anyway, post some stats and graphs for like every day that you play.
thats what I would like to see.
 
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I will post stats later, maybe tomorrow, I have to see how time goes.

Has another soul crushing session yesterday. Was up 4 BI then dropped 9 in maybe 45 minutes. I had a major fish, and lost 4 BI to him alone. I was getting pretty tilted and kept playing anyway....:-(

He was - I will post some hands maybe - like 88/50, some really off the wall shit. He was calling down with MP, bluffing every river on missed draws, unbelievably exploitable, and he took 4 BI off me. Sucking out OTR, simply having it this time and so on. I also had my set beaten by a better set, my set beaten by a chaser who got in OTT with a draw and hit, my AA over played by me OOP VB to the river vs his set, all in less than an hour......... (These are hands NOT vs my fish)


BTW I was drinking juice out of a plastic cup, and, man, is is indestructible...............
 
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Well, I was shocked at some of what I saw. I wont comment, and am almost ashamed to post these, but for better or worse, it is what I have done.
 

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Well I spotted one problem. The worse your table position the more hands you open!


Assuming this is 6 max. I personally open like 13% UTG and 30% on the button. I c-bet a lot more 75%. Just open up more in position and tighten up out of position.

Also your turn c-bet is almost the same as your flop c-bet, so maybe you double barrel too frequently.
 
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How come your WWSF is so low? Are you fit or folding too much post flop? Apart from that, yes what YGM said. Your VPIP% OTB is equal to your PFR% from UTG!!! You need to be making people's lives hell from IP, not fit or folding OOP.
 
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