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Hello! I am new to the site and this be my first post!! So hi guys and gals!!
Ok, i was playing a cash game on wednesday, 50p-1. I have KK utg2, i raise to 3 i have a raise to 15? in front with 2 callers. Comes back around and i raise to 40 with 2 folds and a shove.
I instacall and he flips 99.
Nice one i think and he says "i thought u had AK"
Flop 2 8 10 turn 9 rvr J
So i was felted and sat for a second listening to what they had to say?
The impression i got was that i should have just called the 15 and seen a flop 4 way rather than push hands out preflop with a reraise?
Now i have only been playing live 5 months and mostly tourneys. Cash a handful of times, so this play i did what felted me? Was this correct for a cash table?
Thanks. Overall was about 250* in the middle
 
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If you see in the long term it is a totally profitable move even if you get unlucky. You had about 80% chance to win pre-flop. So if you would play this every time when this situation occurs then you will win a lot.
And your 3BB open-raise was also good, they didn't know what you have. I wouldn't just call the 3bet especially if it is 4 way. They could have KQ or 9T etc. which would beat you.
So it was a good play imo that you did a 4bet and called a 5bet all in. Because even if he has AK , you still have about 70% chance and if he has AA then who cares it is the only one combination which has better chance to beat you.
 
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You must be know when your exit queuee:cool:
 
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Yes, exactly. I said the same to him. If u have AA then ok. I call!
Can you think of any situations when a KK call would be good in this spot at 15? 4way?
 
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No, you did it right. Think yourself, if you have 1000 such situations, then having 80% to win, you will win 800 banks. 800 BI. Imagine how much this is.
 
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All I'll say is I'd keep playing in that game if I were you...
 
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Bad beat. Dont worry about it. In the long run it will come back many times.
 
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This was live, wasnt it?Because if it was online i would play lower stakes first.
 
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No, you did it right. Think yourself, if you have 1000 such situations, then having 80% to win, you will win 800 banks. 800 BI. Imagine how much this is.

All I'll say is I'd keep playing in that game if I were you...


I can only repeat what these two said - with KK there is only ONE hand out of 168 others that can beat you (AA obviously). And if you are playing someone who is willing to shove all-in with a medium pair you will win a lot of money.
 
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Multiway pots shrink your equity. I think in most 4 way pots KK's equity will dip to below 50%?, If that's the case even tough you are a favorite, you no longer win most of the time. I don't like going more than 3 way with kings. It could be profitable, if your opponents are terrible, and you trust yourself to be able to fold when they complete a monster, but most of the time you will just stack one guy anyway, might as well try to go for it pre instead of giving them information.

What I mean is, postflop most of the time you'll just have an overpair, and if multiple people follow you to the river you are most likely not good. And when you are good with an over pair, you can not expect to be paid from multiple opponents. That's why trying to isolate one opponent preflop is better I think.
 
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You played it perfect. You got your money all in with a 80% chance to win a big pot. This is the way cards goes some times. 80% favorite means you will still loose 1 out of 5 times. Don't beat your self up, and never listen to what other players tell you to do when your at the table. They don't have your best interest in mind. Unless its a friend that your respect and even then they shouldn't tell you good advice while sitting at the table. Don't want to give other players free good advice that your playing against. Just agree with them and smile, maybe even lie and say "oh yeah! Good point! that's how I'm going to play it next time for sure!" but know in side that you played the hand perfect.

Hope this helps! Good luck out there!
 
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The pocket kings is a kind of a hand when you should push allin before the flop like aces. For example pocket queens is another story. So I think that you did it well. But you are not insured against those players for whom pocket nines is enough to push. Bad beats happened, happen, and they will happen. You can't do anything with it. You can prevent them. It's poker.A composition of unbelievable situations
 
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You played that hand correctly because most of the time you would have won that hand against pocket 99s. It was also a good move to push the other players out of the hand that way you have better odds in winning the hand. It just sucks that you got sucked out on.
 
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