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Hi! Many times we fold mediocre hands against an early raise cause we use to say '' it doesnt do well against his range ''. I would like to test through pokerstove several ''smart'' hands to see how they do against given ranges. The problem is i dont really know what the average equity of the hand against a range should be before i come to a conclusion. Please enlighten!
 
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Since i get no answers ill be more specific. I mean i want to add a hand to my calling range what is the procedure? What is the minimum equity requirement against a specific range?
 
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A non-retarded EP open-raiser's range is gonna be supertight (~10-18% in 6max), so yours will have to be as well. How tight depends on how well you play versus Villain postflop as well as other factors like Villain's folding tendencies etc. but usually about equal in position (as you have the added advantage of being able to make Villain fold his equity thus realizing more than 100% of your entitled equity), but significantly higher OOP (since Villain will not let you realize more than about 60% of your entitled equity unless you're crushing him).

3bets are mostly either super-premium value (depending on Villain's 4bet/get it in range), or lighter hands with implied odds that you can easily dump if you get jammed or called and miss the flop (stuff like A5s, 76s, etc.).
 
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thnx alexei was thinking exactly but didnt know average optimal equity of a particular hand vs range. i wanna add some strange hands in every range for deception thats why i asked. maybe 36-40% would be fine or less is possible?
 
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Since i get no answers ill be more specific. I mean i want to add a hand to my calling range what is the procedure? What is the minimum equity requirement against a specific range?

It depends on many things. You can call with a very wide range IP against someone who check/folds every flop they don't hit. You don't have to always look at your cards.

Also it depends on the type of hand you have. You don't want to be calling with dominated hands, even if they are above your % criterion.

So many factors... which is why this game is so damn tricky!

To sum up, you're going to have to be way more specific, unless all you're after is a preflop hand chart?
 
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thnx alexei was thinking exactly but didnt know average optimal equity of a particular hand vs range. i wanna add some strange hands in every range for deception thats why i asked. maybe 36-40% would be fine or less is possible?
If you have no reads on Villain's postflop play you should use a bluffing range that's game theory optimal, which means a range where your bluff range is equal to the pot odds you're laying Villain to call. So if you're laying 2:1 to call, you should be bluffing 33% of the time. If you're laying 1.5:1 to call, you should be bluffing 40% of the time (note: the bigger your bet the less EV it is for you, so try to make it as small as you can make Villain fold with; that'd usually be 3x bet).

You should adjust this for position (you will usually realize far more than 100% of your equity IP and far less than 100% OOP), skill level (if villain is better than you he'll realize more of his equity vs you and your range needs to be tighter to compensate), your handreading skills (if your read of Villain's range is wrong you'll make mistaken value bets more often thus should be bluffing less to compensate), and his range breadth (the wider villain is raising the more hands are on top of his range, thus the less you should be -- or really need to be -- bluffing).
 
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