Do you stand up when you've 2x your buy in?

Alot of bankroll management strategies will tell you to stand up if you've doubled your buy-in.

What do you guys think?

I just recently started playing cash, but I tend to stand up when I've 3x the buy-in, though those times I've gotten 2x and waited around, only to end up losing it have been a bit frustrating.

Additionally, like last night, a complete donk was at the table who kept reloading $1.60 at a time on the 4NL tables and pushing with very marginal hands. I'd sit and wait for something that most likely had him crushed and snap him off. I took over $10.00 from him alone and didn't want to get up and leave, though I did eventually.

Leaving from the table should not be tied to the size of the stack (well, almost) ... if the table sits a mega-fish, why leave, taking it 1-2 stack, and not all 5?
For me, so stay even better. Of course, if you lose and you feel that there are too many good players, then yes, probably should leave

Specificity of the game varies depending on the effective stack. Game with one hundred BB is very different from the game with two hundred BB. It should be considered.

Why leave when you are playing well, you have a terrible player with a deep stack and you can win 5x as much as you have right now? Leaving after winning a big hand is a terrible strategy.

Do you have the source which says to stand up after doubling your buy-in? I've never heard of that, and I don't think it's good advice.

twohaha said:

Why leave when you are playing well, you have a terrible player with a deep stack and you can win 5x as much as you have right now? Leaving after winning a big hand is a terrible strategy.

Do you have the source which says to stand up after doubling your buy-in? I've never heard of that, and I don't think it's good advice.

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not sure where else this comes from but i know it was part of chris fergusons brm, however I think it mainly applies perhaps to the grind from nothing to something in getting a stable BR IMO. As indicated if the table has deep pocket fish and you are running well then its certainly a bad idea to leave, but if you double and find the table is full of super tight but agressives then perhaps seek out a more profitable table.

I think if properly rolled its deff a negative on building the br to leave when you double the buyin.

IMO you should be more likely to stay at a table like this. You're deep stacked and the fish keep reloading? I would just stay patient and let him pay for his mistakes.

Yeah if there is a big fat whale at the table and I am running good against them, I am staying. However, as a general rule of thumb for me, once I double up my buy in, I usually walk to protect my earnings. With that said, I am a novice and tend to make a dumb mistake from time to time.

The reason for leaving a table is normally because you dont have an interest in playing or it is not a profitable game. Leaving a table because you doubled up with weak players is a mistake. You need to take advantage of every opportunity.

I should have noted in my post as well that obviously if you are playing a shortstack strategy then yes most of these strategies to the best of my knowledge may suggest that you leave the table after having doubled up because you are then no longer short stacked and it would be wrong to play the same strategy.

SS Strat is an iffy topic among cash game players though (obv this is IMO from some discussions I have seen on the forum lol), there are some pros online that do it but most deep or 100bb cash game players obviously hate the ss players because it also alters the situation of how to play against them due to effective stacks being consideration

It depends on your bankroll. If you are aggressively moving up in stakes, you might begin a new limit when you reach 20 buy ins. So if you double up and have other deepstacks at the table with you, you are now risking 10% of your bankroll instead of 5%. The strategy isn't to prevent you from losing that 10$ that you made, it's to prevent you from risking a larger portion of your roll at once. So if you double up on a fish and other players are still >100BB, don't worry about it.

I usually sit when I play poker regardless of how many buyins i am up or down.

I may stand every now and then to stretch during a long session but that is about it.


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:icon_thum ......I stand up if i am all in in front of my laptop.

When you lose focus its time to leave. Don't let greed get in your way.

If you become an agrofish after doubling....yeah you should, but then that's a major issue

If your playing good poker against inferior opponents never leave. The moment you think you don't have an edge get up and walk away. If your up 2x after a long grind and getting tired/hungry, take a break.

I would say when you feel comfortable and how well you can manage your newly earned stack. If you know you won't get yourself into bad spots having the larger stack size can be an advantage especially in marginal situations

If i'm winning i will stay. I tend to leave when i feel i'm getting tired or the deck has completely dried up on me.

Setting a limit like that may be a consideration to take into account when deciding to leave a table.
If you like to bounce in and out of tables a lot, playing multiple tables during this, then sure, but I don't think you would want to make this your standard.

If the player you won that money off left and there is no more "easy" money at the table, then sure leave. But if someone keeps reloading while paying everybody off, it would be silly to leave.

Nahhh I don't. Unless I've doubled, like, $500. I'll play carefully, but once you've doubled you have more room to negotiate plus the others at the table don't mess with you with stupid calls as much (sometimes).

DaReKa said:

It depends on your bankroll. If you are aggressively moving up in stakes, you might begin a new limit when you reach 20 buy ins. So if you double up and have other deepstacks at the table with you, you are now risking 10% of your bankroll instead of 5%. The strategy isn't to prevent you from losing that 10$ that you made, it's to prevent you from risking a larger portion of your roll at once. So if you double up on a fish and other players are still >100BB, don't worry about it.

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Ok, I'm going to expand on this theory just a little bit. The rule is to actually leave when your stack is more than 10% of your BR, not 2x your starting stack. If you're following BRM of not buying into a game with more than 5% of your BR, that doesn't mean that you will always be buying in for 5% of your BR. If you have a BR of $200 and the only game in you BR is 4NL, you would have to build it up to $20 before you hit the point that you should walk away according to those rules.

At the same time, if you're at a really great table and you can identify exactly what makes it a good table, then I say keep playing until those factors change. I was playing 3/6 live one night and was just about to leave when 2 guys came in, and one was stupidly aggressive and happened to be sitting at my right. It changed the whole dynamic into a very profitable game and I refused to leave until they did, so I was there another 4 hours. I was at a break even point when they came, and I had tripled my stack by the time they left.

don´t care about 2x or 3x if you are winning, keep playing, if you are losing quit, what´s the point of reaching milestones like 2x or 3x? it really doesn´t make any sense to play like that, if you can make 10x just go for it, just stop when you are losing, put some limits, and don´t try to recover because is nonsense and you can end losing more

should not leave the table when you go and play correctly..
whenever there is fatty fish on the table there are a number waiting for the table