Originally Posted by KyleJRM
Any advice that equates calling a flop bet with straight pot odds is bad advice, because it is encouraging that sort of thinking.
I agree with what you're saying, but that is NOT what I said. You're twisting what I said and calling it bad advice. And I do understand the difference between odds on the next card and odds to the river.
I'm happy to learn from you and am honestly considering what you're saying, but I think you misunderstand me. I am not at all advocating calling a flop bet with straight pot odds. I would not make that call in a cash game, and only in special circumstances in a tourney. But if this guy is getting opponents to make quick calls and he wants to slow them down, raise the bet. That is my advice. And if, in doing so, you get them to call without the odds, that's all the better.
Also, don't be so worried about the suckouts. That is results-oriented thinking. Be concerned about making correct decisions and plays. If the cards go against you when you've structured an advantage, there's nothing you can do about that.
Is there a magic bet to pot ratio at which a drawing opponent should fold post-flop? I'm not sure what that is and I welcome you to tell me. But if your opponents are playing sub-optimally, then you alter your strategy to take advantage of that.