Originally Posted by CrashMcCarran
I'm not saying that I bluff EVERY river I miss, but given certain run outs where I have range advantage, a bluff is greater than 50% to give me a pot I have not a chance to win via showdown.
Let's say we have 9s8s on a board of Js 7s 6h, 4h, 3h and we're in the small blind and three bet preflop or just called a raise. Check called the flop and turn. That's a great run out to bluff for us. The pot is probably pretty bloated and we have to fire a pretty big shell but that is a scary board for a lot of hands that have us beat but can't call us if we size our bet correctly.
There's more to draws than just chasing. Hopefully I cleared up any ambiguity from my previous post.
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Crash,
I understood you didn't go at it with the intent to bluff on every hand, and the hand you just laid out...I agree. It's a great scenario of a hand that "can" win under "certain" situations. I agree.
What I was saying was....
I don't go into a hand with all that "considering" you said you undertake when entering a hand. I just don't do it.
I know there are really good "Bluff Players" out there. You very likely maybe one of them. They incorporate bluffing in a larger percentage of their game than most players out there. They even enter a fair percentage of hands with the "intent to bluff" to win the hand.
They do it because they've proven their ability to win doing it.
AND....it's a great answer to the question I started this Thread with. Go to the river to bluff the win.
And I know that there are players that just keep that bluffing mentality in their head, and pull it out when they see an opening to use it, when they believe the percentages of the win using it are in their favor. I agree with all that too.
I'm a mechanic by trade. I understand the tools (bluffing) and the tool box (head, brain).
And I know that there are a lot of tools in the old toolbox that come out from time to time, or a lot of times depending on the particular mechanic.
I personally am not one of those players who will go the river considering all the angles on bluffing going there.
And I'm not one of those players looking for opportunities to Bluff.
If I chase to the river....it's because the percentages on a 9 player table of those 2 cards in my hand winning.......are in my favor. No matter how small.
The villain/villains... actions Preflop, and again on the Flop, and again on the Turn....are MY deciding factors when chasing to the River.
But then, I'm not a poker player. I play poker.
But yes,
I understood you didn't do it every time.
Everything you've said, I agree with. I'm just not thinking about it.
I'm too focused on setting the guy up......by showing my 7 2 offsuits,
so he'll call....my quad kings.
((true story..happened the other night))
Again, thanks for contributing with the thoughts, and process. It's greatly appreciated!!