Dealing with over Aggressive opponents

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I have never in my poker life faced such a aggressive. Would raise with any 2 cards. And he was hitting with trash he like tripled up of me easy. I tryed rebuy and play with preminums but they never connected with the board and i knew it he had a pair or a draw hes gona call any in.
So what do do against aggression?
Should your starting hand requirements?
Should you try use aggression back.
this is a real leak in my game and would love the help>
I hope we have a good decision about this topic because i know that a lot of micro stakes gamers have this same problem.:musicus::musicus::musicus:
 
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It does depend on the opponent. Watch their patterns, some will fold when you get aggressive back others will push harder.
I myself am a nit so when faced with an aggressive opponent will wait for the hand I am sure will hold up.
 
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hopefully you want to be sitting on their left, so you have position on them, then your able to manipulate them a lot.. being OOP against them your sort of handcuffed and have to play much tighter.. using aggression against them isnt advised, as your pretty much stooping to their level...

try if possible to get position on them.. and just play sound fundimental solid poker... over time they will make more mistakes than you pre and postflop and you should capitalise on those errors...
 
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try if possible to get position on them..

If you don't have position on him, leave the table. Doesn't matter how much edge you think you have, change tables because one of the most expensive things in poker is aggression on your left.
 
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There are ways to counter aggression on your left...one easy one is the classic check raise. That usually can be very profitable with a maniac to your left.

Another strategy would be to sloooooow play monsters and let the maniac dig his own grave by his overbets, etc. Be careful though, you need to have a good read when doing this as well as a very solid hand - no slow playing top pair, 2 pair, or any type of draws, etc. This works better if the maniac is on your right but can be tweaked to work if the maniac is to your left, by checking and calling all the way down until the river, then BAM big check raise all in.

Good luck!
 
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I fell foul to this myself a few weeks ago and by changing my normal game and trying to go after the guy lost a stack. i have now realised you should let the guy do all the work and just play hands you know your ahead on.
 
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the best way imho is to slow play them and wait for strong hand and then push them a bit, so they will raise/re-raise you and you probably will have them with your monster hand and get their chips.
That's what I do with maniacs. Just be very careful not to lose your head with few so-so starting hands with them because they will raise/re-raise you.
 
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i agree with the position part. Try and swithcu p your tactics to see what works. A simple 3 bet might get him to fold or he gets even more agressive he might have you beat. I say just want for premium hands 3bet him and then push all in. Your aggression is going to make him not be as agressive
 
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Discipline and patience. Wait them out. Sooner or later, you or someone else will take them out. Pokerkid123 is right, you can lose way too much fighting their fight.
 
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Discipline and patience. Wait them out. Sooner or later, you or someone else will take them out. Pokerkid123 is right, you can lose way too much fighting their fight.


Actually, I disagree. As long as you're properly bankrolled, widen up your value range a lot and play more hands than normal. Just don't play back at them when they're on your left.
 
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Also the Villian is on your right an is BIG stack
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If you like to play speculative hands then change the table.
I like that players kind of players.Just wait for good hand and stack them.
They never stay for a long time at the table.
 
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I have never in my poker life faced such a aggressive. Would raise with any 2 cards. And he was hitting with trash he like tripled up of me easy. I tryed rebuy and play with preminums but they never connected with the board and i knew it he had a pair or a draw hes gona call any in.
So what do do against aggression?
Should your starting hand requirements?
Should you try use aggression back.
this is a real leak in my game and would love the help>
I hope we have a good decision about this topic because i know that a lot of micro stakes gamers have this same problem.:musicus::musicus::musicus:
Try and "trap" the overly aggressive player by only playing premium hands slowly and then once you have him hooked, reel him in by goinh all-in. GL, Wally
 
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myself i love these guys i ship any premium and see what the river brings. but there is apsolutely no shame in leaving the table. if you find it hard to play against this type of villian or you don't like the vairance involved there is no point in staying find another table that fits your style.
 
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Position, as many others have stated is critical, but not essential. I have found that having the one thing many of the over-aggressive Internet types don't have is key...PATIENCE and KNOWLEDGE. If you know they will not be leaving the table because they are dominating/bullying, then keep starting hands to premium and play tight. Once you check a flopped set or two and simply call to the river then raise, they will get the idea and you have know turned the decision game back to them. The one thing hyper-aggressive players have to their advantage from the start...they are not in the critical thinking/decision game. They use the fact that YOU will have to decide to their advantage. Patience always pays off against these players and expanding your starting hands is always helpful. Tight aggressive play is always good, but to me, too many play much too tight. As long as you know how to fold, can calculate pots odds and have a solid idea of drawing probabilities -- these players are actually gifts from the poker gods. Problem is that too many players don't know these things or lose sight of them during play due to emotions and tilt.
 
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yep, i have come across many such players...
Wat i did was when facing the problem, i came out of the table and watched the action and enjoyed it...
Theres no strategy to work with players like dat cause they dont care about the money or chips...Just donks i guess...
 
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I've got a good friend who plays this way - and to some extend - it's rubbed off on me a little bit.

Ussually this player plays very recklessly looking for fold equity where he can get it. He'll raise with hands like 62s and fold stuff like J2s - and of course a flop that comes A62 when you have AK is not looking food for you against this guy.

I noticed in my friend's play from a few sessions I was on the rail on - his bet sizes do change with his holdings. For instance, homeboy won't go all in on the river without the percieved nuts - but that doesn't mean he won't bet the river hard if he thinks you're folding.

Leave the table, or adjust your game to counter him.

At a live cash game, the closest I've come to this was a villain who would raise $20 blind EVERY hand, and he was sucking out - but the smart players sat and waited for hands. I got QQ on hand, called the $3 BB, he raised to $20, I called. The flop came low, he asked if I wanted to check it down (like we're playing Bingo or something.) I told him to "Play your hand, dude." He bet out $60, I reraised all-in, and he folded his shit hand.

Next hand he does it agian, another player has QQ (and a deeper stack than me), and even our villain - and makes the exact same play. Our villain calls the all-in on the flop (of course my QQ wasn't exposed on the first hand) - and stacks our villain.

If you can't wait a few orbits for a decent PP to come after this guy and teach him a lesson - then go to another table. But you have to be able to wait, and then have to have him not get lucky.

Also, try to tilt this guy. The reckless style of play leads for big swings - both up and down - and requires a lot of attention. He's probably playing a max of 3 tables and his focusing his attention on this one. When he takes a big loss he'll be pissed off and start getting his money in bad more and more.
 
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Tighten up and trap initially, then re-pop it after the maniac's raise.
 
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I FINALLY CAUGHT A OVER AGGRO GUY
EVERY POT
BET MAX ON EVERY STREET
CALLING DOWN EVERYTHING
SO i finally got this hand and it was enough 2 call his raise

full tilt poker $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 493651
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $6.08
SB: $7.64
Hero (BB): $3.22
UTG: $4.94
CO: $2.86

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with J :spade: 9 :spade:
2 folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.45) T :heart: 8 :heart: 2 :heart: (2 players)
SB bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45

note: the other 2 times he had flushes he would check the flop to trap.
notes are a great thing

Turn: ($1.35) 9 :club: (2 players)
SB bets $1.35, Hero raises to $2.57 all in, SB calls $1.22

River: ($6.49) K :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

so i caught him and 5 hands later he busted out
 
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I find the hardest part in dealing with these types of players is not "joining" them and playing mediocre cards to try and get even or beat them at their own game so to speak.
 
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