dangerous trapping!

if you have a pocket pair and make three of a kind on the flop, dont try to trap if there is a possible flush draw on the table. go ahead and make a good raise and try to take the pot, because if you try to check raise your opponent he could very well make a flush, waste your three of a kind!

Happened to me many times before I finally decided to learn from it lol

yup, agree. you have to bet, but what do you do then when they call, and the next card comes is of that suit. do you belive them if they make a big bet?

We all have been down that line, but i have to agree with u, but there is still a chance depending on how high the flush draw is and how many outs are there, that u may not be able to buy the pot, so that's why i would just bet enough to not lose enough chips just in case the person decided to call, and hurt my stack. Earlier in the day i was playing in a 1dollar tourney on Absolute poker, and i had q/8 off in a bb, and no raise so i checked, the flop was 10/j/k of my suit, and it went raised, reraised, and all in, now i had the person. "the all in" coverd, but I didn't have the orginal reraiser, but i still ended up callin, and luckly hit the royal, so, in conclusion all i have to say is when your betting make sure u don't bet enough to hurt your stack or else u might end up being the person who is really falling for a trap.

For what its worth, the other day we determined that if you got trips, and a flush draw is showing on the flop, the odds of a flush coming is so close to that of the board pairing giving you the boat, that you should always play the trips as if they will win. Making the slow play of the set a not bad move.

Pretty much all trapping is dangerous - like anything else though, I think it'd be overly simplistic to say "I've flopped a set, but there's two spades out there, now the turn's another spade, it's laydown time"

You need to take all the other information available to you into consideration - position, stack size, preflop betting, reads, your image... the list goes on.

Maybe in a given hand the right thing to do is to play your set quick or lay it down on the turn. But if you make that play every time without thinking any futher, you've got a leak you need to plug. There's a chance other players will catch on too, and start pushing you out of hands when they don't have a flush

DJ11 is right too - their hand can improve, but so can yours. Two spades on the flop and two in their hand gives them 9 outs to the flush. You've got 7 outs to either a full house or quads, and you pick up another 3 outs if the board doesn't pair on the turn

i think if u have three of a kind you shouldnt just bet high and win the pot because your scared of the flush (unless the pots big enough). I think do a bet that they would call but still have to call a decent amount of money. Then on the turn make a bet that a flush chaser would receive no good odds from

Yup, i agree. I have lost tons of times slow playing trips and then losing on turn or river. It has lost me tons of money.

smerald said:

Yup, i agree. I have lost tons of times slow playing trips and then losing on turn or river. It has lost me tons of money.

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There's a few things that need to be looked at here though:

- Are you playing trips (pair on the board matching one card in your hand) or a set (pair in your hand matching one card on the board)? Your odds of improving are the same in either case, but the set is better disguised than trips and your opponent might be calling thinking you only have one or two pair, rather than three of a kind, and reasoning that they could hit an overpair to take the hand as well

- Are you re-evaluating the hand properly on the turn and the river?

The flush draw is only 35% to hit. An open end straight is slightly less than that, and a gutshot straight is only about 17%. And you're about 28% to improve.

So depending on which draw you're up against, you should be coming out ahead at least 65% of the time (the worst-case nobody improves scenario). Long-term, this play should be making you money

yea, dont slow play sets with dangerpus flops if you do it good only turn out to be bad

I say that a high set is worth going to war with prior to the turn. If the turn provides another suited card, well maybe I'll just call any bet and hope for the boat.

ace2727 said:

yea, dont slow play sets with dangerpus flops if you do it good only turn out to be bad

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...might turn out bad 35% of the time. Or less. Flush draws don't have any magical hitting powers that other hands don't