Could a good player invest $200 into 25c-50c and build a bankroll?

I was just wondering anyone's oppinions on cash games and building a bankroll,

I recently lost my bankroll playing in games I know I shouldn't of been playing in
even though initially I started well I suffered some painful coolers It's no Excuse as its inevitably going to come

I'm just wondering what you guys think of my chances on playing 2/3 table 1 table 25c-50c and 2 tables 10c-25c

or even what you guys think you would need to invest to get back to $1,000

Just invest $1000 and you're already there.

I would try to get away a bit from trying hit certain numbers and tbh even just trying to win. Certainly, don't try to rush BR growth. Keep your focus on the game itself and the other players. Consciously try to maintain your "A" game at all times and be sure to second guess your own decisions (moreso away from the table I suppose).

$200 is quite a small amount to play the stakes you're talking about. Even with a big edge on the field you can easily lose that investment. Don't try it unless you're cool with redepositing again.

$200 is too shallow a bankroll for NL50. You can play it, but keep in mind you will likely lose your roll several times over as any standard downswing can easily wipe you out.

i went to casino with $200 and my live BR hit it's peak at $4500 ... it sure does go up and down and i'm sure glad i hit a downswing later than sooner.

If you are seriously considering rebuilding your BR, BR management will truly help. With a $200 investment, you should grind out some 0.01/0.02 or 0.02/0.04 games until you have ~80-100 BB for the next level game. Consistency and patience will take you a long way. If you jump in trying to make $1000 in a few days , you will not be able to survive the inevitable swings of poker.

There is no rush. Take your time and take notes on your game. If you can grind that 200 into 500, then you are ready to move up.

It's already been said, but 200 is nowhere near enough to play 50NL. 10NL yeah, but not 50NL seriously. I often have swings of over 200 during a single session.

Also, what makes you think you have an edge at 50NL?

I advise you to play 10 nl with this roll. grind it up and move stakes. this is truly a great roll for 5nl.

I was just curious as to if any of you have succeeded at 50nl


And in reply to what gives me an edge? Im not direspecting anyone at 50nl they may well be alot more experienced and skillfull
Ona small bankroll I plan to play my own strategy il never risk
A full buy in in one hand say im a slight favourate or hold a premium hand pre flop
I wont take that chance because I know if iose thats gonna take a huge dent

I prefer to give it up wait for a better spot with someone likely to pay me off and stick
To my post flop analysis playing smaller pots no more than two opponants preferably, if I sense weakness ill stick around with a half decent hand test the water,
If by the river that doesnt change il either look to push them off if confident and have a piece or call if I have any indication or spot a oddity in the betting.
And in addition tend to be able to extract value from made hands by different approaches to diffrrent player's

Yes, over many thousands of hands I am a winning player at 50NL.

Have you played many hands of online poker? If so, at which stakes?

TBH having read your latest post, I get the impression that you don't really understand the game that well. Don't take this the wrong way, I also didn't (and still don't to a large extent) but you probably need to start at lower stakes and work on your game.

Just trying to be helpful!

cotta777 said:

I was just curious as to if any of you have succeeded at 50nl


And in reply to what gives me an edge? Im not direspecting anyone at 50nl they may well be alot more experienced and skillfull
Ona small bankroll I plan to play my own strategy il never risk
A full buy in in one hand say im a slight favourate or hold a premium hand pre flop
I wont take that chance because I know if iose thats gonna take a huge dent

I prefer to give it up wait for a better spot with someone likely to pay me off and stick
To my post flop analysis playing smaller pots no more than two opponants preferably, if I sense weakness ill stick around with a half decent hand test the water,
If by the river that doesnt change il either look to push them off if confident and have a piece or call if I have any indication or spot a oddity in the betting.
And in addition tend to be able to extract value from made hands by different approaches to diffrrent player's

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Our dear friend cotta,

It sounds like you are going to lose your entire 200 dollars very very fast.
Ive been where you are in the past and ive tried to win back money i lost(as fast as possible but playing good).
Unfortunately theory and practice are two very conflicting things when it comes down to playing poker.

Lets talk about some facts. Fact number one is that if you dont have a minimum of 15 buy ins for the level you want to play,dont even go there. Id say 20-25 buy ins but ill go as low as 15 since you feel like you are a winning player.

Fact number 2: Even the best players in the world go through horrific downswins of 10 or even 15 buy ins by playing their A game due to a bad strike of variance.

what are you going to do when you sit down at 25 or 50NL with 4 buy ins or 6 buy ins and you suddenly lose 2 or 3 in a row?

I'll tell you what you'll do. You will go on tilt due to being scarred of losing the rest or mad cause the site is "cheating" and you will blow the rest away within 30 minutes max. I obviously dont wish this happens to you but it is a reality te majority of poker players have faced.

The best advice anyone can give you is to play at 10 NL maximum with a roll like that since you believe you can win and take your roll up to 450-500(which is only 25 buy ins up) and then you can take some shots at 25 NL. Even then youll be kinda short but hey, better have 18 buy ins that 6 right?

Winning in cash games requires alot of time and patience and it is highly unlikely for smeone to succeed playing cash in the longterm without the number one quality of PATIENCE.

Anyways, i hope this sinks into your brain because if it doesnt, you will have to discover this information the way alot of us did. THE HARD WAY.

good luck and i hope you do well.

Thanks for the advice I definately look to take this on board lol.
I was only prepared to buy in for 80 initially if and when I lose I would be prepared to drop to
10c

I've said this before, but when I first put money online, I just whacked on 500 and sat down at 10NL. I then realised I didn't really know how to play very well, only ever having watched it on TV and played with friends before. I'd never studied the game.

I discovered this site, posted a few hands and tried to work out what the hell they were going on about (VPIP what now? lol) and realised pretty quickly I had a LOT to learn. I moved down to 2NL and worked up from there. There's no shame in it. Just always keep trying to improve and the results will hopefully follow

cotta777 said:

Thanks for the advice I definately look to take this on board lol.
I was only prepared to buy in for 80 initially if and when I lose I would be prepared to drop to
10c

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still a bad idea! If you aint played much online poker its extemely likely that you can currently beat the 50nl games, just stay away from them until you have atleast 1k in ure account, i personally reccommend 2k+, cause like cafeman said, swings happen, i lost 1k the other day playing mostly 50nl and im a pretty solid winner over hundreds of thousands of hands there too

I agree with most post here just take it slow. it is very easy to blow your roll online and people easily start yelling rigged when its their money management skills. study this game if you want to win at it.

Basic Bankroll Strategy

If you only come with $200 to start the first bankroll, I prefer u'd rather stay at 0.05/0.1 level or $10 max buy in at most. The formula is easily to figure the bankroll is suitable for you or not, by using the big blind times 2000 is the minimum bankroll which you need to carry, for example $25 max (0.1/0.25) you need $500 at least, $50 max (0.25/0.5) - $1000, $100 max (0.5/1) - 2000. All of the above I mention are worked for No Limited Holdem only.

I did it with $10 and very aggressive BRM. Started with a deposit of $10 in The day after Christmas and had $1600 in about 70,000 - 80,000 hands - then Black Friday came . Edit: I did start as $2nl though.

Take your time and play games suitable for your current roll (5NL).

I mean anythings possible, but nothing is a given. So no solid answer

untill ur at like 400-500 id stay at 1-2 MAX, maybe 50cent/1$, cash gaems are just so hit n miss somethimes, a lotta taking pots, and just think of some of the hands u loose on in tournys, both flop sets, flushes beating higher flushes. sometimes u commit so much not thinking that someone has the only hand that can beat u, and u loose so much more then a 20/30$ tournament

variance can be a real bitch

It feels like ground hog day online sometimes,
The majority of optimal players vary beetween there bankroll up and down never getting anywhere

I personally think this is because the cards online are sequenced on alot of sites,
I would even go as far as saying a percentage of the time ''your the chosen one''
and when the cards are landing in a certain way, and someone puts you all in and you have AK . I know Im going to lose, to K6
because this is what the poker sites do,

two possible reasons.... first one because it puts players on tilt and theyl most likely go steaming lose more.
secondly, its a variety system and they favourise different players at different times.
especially in turbo sit n go's.

longer blinds you can obviously use your edge and exploit soft play.

Long story short OP:

I'd be VERY surprised if Phil Ivey could pull this off without having to reload more than once.

doomasiggy said:

Long story short OP:

I'd be VERY surprised if Phil Ivey could pull this off without having to reload more than once.

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Well lol let's not get carried away here. A good player is much more likely not to lose 4 buy ins at the very beginning than he/she is to do so. The risk is there however, and for a winning player it's a needless one.

DunningKruger said:

Well lol let's not get carried away here. A good player is much more likely not to lose 4 buy ins at the very beginning than he/she is to do so. The risk is there however, and for a winning player it's a needless one.

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Dude, in this spot he only needs to get coolered 4 times to go busto.

anything's possibe but i would follow the advice already given. I mean you could jump in and double up on a good hand but consider this..i had turned a depost of 100 into 600 on bovada and hit the 1/2 nl table with all of it..FIRST MISTAKE.
i catch Aces and play it aggressive. I normally don't raise or play aggressive with monster pairs because 99 percent of the time i can slow play with my disguised play and squeeze out more money by bringing in more people into the action which brings me to Mistake 2..not even considering the donks at my table that play with nothing in hopes to hit the lottery which just so happened.
i decide to play aggressive because i'd been tight the whole hour i was there and generally was able to take down pots with any 2 cards. we get a new guy. i raise 5x the blinds pre flop. only he calls. then i'm overbetting the pot and get called down to the river where he beats me with a set. 10 4 , he hit the first 4 on the flop and second on the river. either he had some sort of software or he just got lucky but that hand alone busted my bank roll and now i am left with 20 bucks and back playing the .2/.5