Completely stagnated at 2nl. Advice?

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After 10k hands I have entirely stagnated on the next 10k. I am not entirely sure what has happened as I feel like I've improved my play recently, but I am just struggling to win. Any suggestions on what I should do from now to at least try and fix this?

https://gyazo.com/a6903340816f2c59e0c0fc5a90aa2539

My stats are:
VPIP: 16.56
PFR: 11.73
3Bet: 3.21
Total AF: 2.1
CBet flop: 53.81

This is all at 2nl Full ring PS.
 
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There's nothing to fix. You've only played 20k hands and you're up 8bi. Pretty standard...
 
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A 10k hand breakeven stretch is normal. Just keep playing your game, get in more volume and realise that you're still winning at 2NL overall.
 
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You are winning about 3.5bb/100 so you for sure have some leaks in your game. You are probably passing up a lot of +ev spots because you are playing so snug. I would say your stats seem extremely nitty and adding some aggression to your game should boost your win rate some. Try to mix in some light 3 betting and cbet a little bit more. (but don't go crazy)

I do admire your stats and they are for sure solid but I think you are at the point you need to start moving beyond standard ABC play if you want to see your win rate grow/move up in stakes.
 
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I think you should keep playing nitty as a beginner, as your postflop game isn't well developed yet. Once your winrate goes up, then I'd consider loosening up. You get yourself into marginal spots when you open up your range, and you're going to be spewing a lot of money if you don't have solid postflop fundamentals. I played as nitty as you did for 10-13ish sessions at 25NL, and after about 30 sessions I run at 22/18 and do well at 50NL.
 
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Say your bb/100, EV bb/100, WTSD W$SD, without these stats is difficult say something.

I would say your stats seem extremely nitty and adding some aggression to your game should boost your win rate some

It's fine stats, why should we increase the aggression ? because a lot of passive players at this limit, and we have a lot of situations to limp behind, it's very profitable game..
I would have increased only 3bet%, 3% this is realy nit game..
 
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I'd also say 3bet and maybe a bit higher flop cbet somewhere around 60% IMHO
what i dont like is that most of your winnings are from one good run, rest of it is pretty much breaking even, which is not bad for the beginner dont get me wrong, after all you are beating the rake which is good thing for a start but since you have PT4 why dont you post all basic stats (in HEM the report is called overall, i dont know about PT), and also positional stats, stealing is one more thing that i can bet that you are not doing enough, blind defending is next but i would leave that outside until you get bit more experienced
 
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For my taste the VPIP is too tight unless you are playing 8 tables. I play .01 and .02 tables and I am a maniac at 30% VPIP also 8bb/100.
 
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For my taste the VPIP is too tight unless you are playing 8 tables. I play .01 and .02 tables and I am a maniac at 30% VPIP also 8bb/100.

Sample size?

That's too wide at 2nl
 
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I think you should keep playing nitty as a beginner, as your postflop game isn't well developed yet. Once your winrate goes up, then I'd consider loosening up. You get yourself into marginal spots when you open up your range, and you're going to be spewing a lot of money if you don't have solid postflop fundamentals. I played as nitty as you did for 10-13ish sessions at 25NL, and after about 30 sessions I run at 22/18 and do well at 50NL.

Ohhh, don't be that guy. I never said to open his range more, 16vpip is fine for full ring and loosening up is a mistake. I was suggesting to add aggression to his game which is mainly directed to post flop besides the occasional light 3 bets and light 3 betting doesn't mean he has to play hands he normally wouldn't. Also, wouldn't you say 22k hands is the time to start moving beyond "beginner" status and time to work on other aspects of your game besides starting hand selection? (I think that is more then 10-13ish sessions) Its weird how you took what I said, twisted it, disagreed and then gave the same advice in some vague thinly veiled brag.

It's fine stats, why should we increase the aggression ?

because a lot of passive players at this limit,
 
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I'm not sure on we're on the same page. It seemed like you thought he should loosen up more, as you said he was extremely nitty and playing too snug. And I did not know that he played for 22k hands. Was skimming this and just saw the 10k part. I don't think I was really twisting what you said and disagreeing with it, but if it seems that way then my bad. Didn't mean to brag either, and I was responding really late at night o:. And I think we both gave different advice. I didn't advise anything towards postflop play, increasing c-betting, light 3-betting, and adding aggression. All I advised was to keep playing nitty since I thought he was only 10k hands in and needed more postflop experience.
 
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Yeah, his vpip is fine but pfr, 3 bet and cbet is where the playing like a nit part comes in.
 
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I'll take some of the advice and see how my play changes. I'm also concerned about the fact that my profit is all from just one good run followed by breaking even. As I've tried implementing some of the theory I've learnt as I have been playing, I'm wondering if maybe I've changed my play and picked up bad habits? I get that I should be moving on from ABC poker, but not entirely sure where to start. Any articles or books I should read?
 
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I found self-reviewing a ton of hands that go to showdown through bovada's hand history and watching Poker Bank videos on youtube helpful. Articles tend to be pretty vague imo, and I think a lot of books are probably outdated.
 
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