cold calling preflop

Just wondering when the right time is to cold call preflop IP my first theory is just with a small pp against a real nit of a player who will only raise with premium pp and only co,ntinuing post flop when hitting the set. Seen a lot of people doing this and not quite sure on the idea behind it thanks

schiliiii said:

Just wondering when the right time is to cold call preflop IP my first theory is just with a small pp against a real nit of a player who will only raise with premium pp and only co,ntinuing post flop when hitting the set. Seen a lot of people doing this and not quite sure on the idea behind it thanks

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for me usually cold calling preflop is only when there is a raise and a re-raise. any other time (in cash) if i decide to play the hand i will 3-bet it. or raise it if it hasnt already been raised. open limping is just weak and horrible unless you have aces but EVEN then its not a good idea cause u can catch alot of frerollers and get sucked out on more easily.

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schiliiii said:

Just wondering when the right time is to cold call preflop IP my first theory is just with a small pp against a real nit of a player who will only raise with premium pp and only co,ntinuing post flop when hitting the set. Seen a lot of people doing this and not quite sure on the idea behind it thanks

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Yes, it's called set mining, and you can do it profitably vs nits who can't fold their overpairs post flop, and in other situations too.

Check this out: https://www.cardschat.com/set-mining-poker.php (although I would say you should usually never call 3bets purely to set mine).

cold calling IP can be good in a few situations. Like SC and a multi way pot or, as stated above, vs tight player purely to set mine. YOu need to be fairly sure you wont get squeezed. Cold calling with the intention of raising a squeezer is also sometime worth trying if you believe there is a good possibility of getting squeezed.

Cold calling after a 3 bet pre can go south real fast. Definitely have a plan of action and a reason for doing this. Or just dont.

Thanks for the replys I have seen some online videos where a player would just cold call with say king jack off against a single raiser what's his intention to steal post flop when raiser shows weakness ?

Yep, calling pre IP to hit flops, float and simply bet when checked to is highly profitable vs villains with exploitable tendencies.

schiliiii said:

Thanks for the replys I have seen some online videos where a player would just cold call with say king jack off against a single raiser what's his intention to steal post flop when raiser shows weakness ?

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his intention is to lose his money .thats my opinion . i dont see me getting into any hand without 3 betting. because by doing this you kind of slow down his action post flop esp if your in position ,you can see the turn a lot cheaper than you would ifyou just called cause he ismost likely to check it since u 3bet him.

I've been starting to think about this topic lately. The only cold calling I do these days is set mining or if it folds to the sb, he raises, and I have something decent in the bb. Other than that I'm folding. This means any reg or thinking player will be able to narrow my range pretty easily. I'm starting to think of cold calling more in position from the BTN/CO. Be interested in hearing what kind of hands guys are calling with in these spots.

vinylspiros said:

his intention is to lose his money .thats my opinion . i dont see me getting into any hand without 3 betting. because by doing this you kind of slow down his action post flop esp if your in position ,you can see the turn a lot cheaper than you would ifyou just called cause he ismost likely to check it since u 3bet him.

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Can you play on my table please

youregoodmate said:

Can you play on my table please

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Lol seriously...my table 2 please

vinylspiros said:

his intention is to lose his money .thats my opinion . i dont see me getting into any hand without 3 betting. because by doing this you kind of slow down his action post flop esp if your in position ,you can see the turn a lot cheaper than you would ifyou just called cause he ismost likely to check it since u 3bet him.

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Inflating the pot with marginal hands by 3 betting every time you enter is bad and spewy. Just my opinion. Cold calling with small pp and suited connectors in multiway raised pots is a good play.
Of course on an observant table it's good to mix it up and sometimes 3 bet with those hands in position. It's all situational.

youregoodmate said:

Can you play on my table please

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im the last person you want at your table. but if u really want to play let me know. wink. ( joking of course)

to everyone who didnt agree with my post about raising the JK off.:
raise or fold.no way im ever calling that. why? cause if i raise i build momentum and take conrol over the pot.which is my favorite playing style. secondly if he had something like mid pp u can easilty continue the bet on the flop and take it down right there assuming any over cards come off or even low cards. you could represent aces,kings.anything ur heart desires. but if you meet resistance. i mean call or raise the turn resistance. RELEASE..... and move on. that is my personal playing style(very effective most olf the time i might add)
i dont like to guess their hands by checking stats or whatever. i like to see what they have according to how they react to my raises.

post stats and results to prove this playing style isn't lolretarded..

i dont have any stats cause i dont have any of that fancy stuff you guys use. i only have my bankroll . i deposited 100 dollars on wednesday,sat down at the 50NL( YES I PLAYED UNDEROLLED) i admit it. but was mostly to pass my evening wasnt planning to go any further than that night. today is friday and i have cashed the 100$ and have another 322 to show. so thats all i got. is it good enough? i dont know but when i make my huge 1300 dollars deposit(huge for me,cause im poor) next month and play a couple of thousand hands,ill let you know,if my mumbo jumbo is profitable over large numbers of hands played. ive spent alot of time in tourneys this year ,but i know my cash game is good. i just dont have any proof right now.

can't wait.

OMGITSOVER9K said:

can't wait.

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when i post my stats in here one day,i am 100% sure that they will be out of this world.I have friends that come over to watch me play cash that are LITERALLY rubbing their eyes with what they see. the only thing i hear every other hand is .WHAT??? NO WAY!!! thats sick etc etc. i can make money faster than most other people. the problem is i think there is a leak in my game . a leak that has alot to do with forgetting that a fold button exists .this usually happens when i win alot fast and think im unstoppable. there is a method to my madness but i must learn to not overdo it.
i see myself as a poker caveman.

Keep off the mushrooms

youregoodmate said:

Keep off the mushrooms

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HEHEHEEHHE, ok . hey,self confidence never hurt anyone. i am overdoing it but thats just me.. good luck guys see you around here.

@vinylspiros: I have read some of your posts, and I think you are genuinely trying to improve. I also think there are a number of flaws in your thought process. And some of them have been pointed out ITT, albeit sometimes a bit sarcastically. There is nothing wrong with confidence, but over confidence - when unfounded -can un seat the mighty.

I wont go into what I consider wrong - anymore than I already have ITT - but keep and open mind, and really ponder the criticism, like "could they have a point?"

Honest self criticism > confidence > over confidence

fletchdad said:

@vinylspiros: I have read some of your posts, and I think you are genuinely trying to improve. I also think there are a number of flaws in your thought process. And some of them have been pointed out ITT, albeit sometimes a bit sarcastically. There is nothing wrong with confidence, but over confidence - when unfounded -can un seat the mighty.

I wont go into what I consider wrong - anymore than I already have ITT - but keep and open mind, and really ponder the criticism, like "could they have a point?"

Honest self criticism > confidence > over confidence

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Honestly, thank you.

i appreciate the advice and ill try to take it more serious. its just that i have impressed myself lately with a huge improvement in my game and i think maybe im getting overexited. i would like to thank you and everyone else here that has read my threads and helped me with their advice. i have learned alot. its just that i have these radical ideas sometimes that work now and then and i try to tell others about them. . anyways thanks again and good luck to you. your post was very good advice.

You can still post a link to your pokertableratings page. That'll give us a pretty good idea.