Checking on the Turn when you flop a monster

that's hard to say man. I'd start with a small bet, just to try and lure them in a little. It's what I do atleast. Then, if they call off the flop, i'll bet twice as much on the turn, showing that I could have something, or maybe i'm just bluffing. If that works, then after the river card, bet about 3 times as much as your last bet. Either you're going to take the money they've already given you, or they'll take the bait and call you, then have serious regrets when they see that monster.

Bigchipz08 said:

that's hard to say man. I'd start with a small bet, just to try and lure them in a little. It's what I do atleast. Then, if they call off the flop, i'll bet twice as much on the turn, showing that I could have something, or maybe i'm just bluffing. If that works, then after the river card, bet about 3 times as much as your last bet. Either you're going to take the money they've already given you, or they'll take the bait and call you, then have serious regrets when they see that monster.

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I would rather bet half the pot. It looks like a continuation bet if u raised preflop. If u just check after a preflop raise may look like ur hiding that monster.

If you have flopped a monster, you have to check. You have to check, no question. After the turn, check again, the opponent will then think you got squat and maybe catch something on the river good enough to call an over bet that makes you look weak or a small bet that makes you look weak and then maybe the opponent will try to steal, then you hit hard......

yeah id say you might as well either bet the whole way or check till the river

often times people are drawing so they call your first bet and then the check is just a free card for them

if they hit their draw your golden

I would say it depends what position you have on the table, people will also consider that. For example, if you flop a monster in a strong position, and you raise, they will either think A: Your roughing them because you can, or B: Every past hand you won with monsters you raised.

Its hard to say wich option the person will adopt though, I would find that it depends on their hand, and their quality as a player. If you get a bad player, he will surely fold (I think).


If you are a weak position, it will look like you hit that monster if you raise, but people will try to steal if you stay hidden.

Yea when you flop a monster you start off with a small bet, get a call and see what up probably up against, then on the turn put another bet out there, about 2/3 of the pot so if he had a flush or straight draw he'll probably call and if he hits u could get paid off on the river

It depends on how your play has been perceived on the table (what your table image is). I'll try the c-bet, check turn, big bet river,.. trying to suck my opponent in, making it 'look as if' it was just a typical c-bet being that I was the initial preflop raiser, then checking the turn, 'acting as if' I'm shutting it down, then betting big on the river, attempting to look like a donk or that I'm trying to buy the pot on a missed draw or something of the sort. Often it'll get paid off,.. and if he folds,.. well I'll just try it again later, lol. Most often I'm firing out another bet on the turn if I think the flop has hit my opponent's hand. It's really dependent upon the board and who my opponent is in the hand, how my play's been perceived,...how he plays, stack sizes, stack size in relation to opponent, to avg. stack , etc.
Lots of variables to consider when making any play.

jaymorin123 said:

Yea when you flop a monster you start off with a small bet, get a call and see what up probably up against, then on the turn put another bet out there, about 2/3 of the pot so if he had a flush or straight draw he'll probably call and if he hits u could get paid off on the river

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Um... he's calling a 2/3 pot bet on the turn with a straight draw? Where is he.. I want to be on his table... now!! If he's going to call a 2/3 pot turn bet with a straight draw,.. why not just check raise him allin, lol.

My thoughts are .. dont check. especially if you bet out on preflop.

If you check then you are saying that you havnt connected in any way.

But preflop you were saying you did.

How do you then get money in the pot later?

Id bet small.. like you have bottom pair or are just trying to steal.

If he hasnt connected he will fold.. but will do this anywway.

However if he has a draw or has say top pair then he is likely to call the flop, calll the turn and call the river. Thus you get more money.

Checking when you have something is over used IMO. I someone checks to me ill put in a probe bet.. and take it from there.

I would lure them in with a mediocre bet, then try to hold them in with minimal betting. . .bet each time a little bit and having him call with garner you more money than betting big on the turn or river and having them fold. . .Of course sometimes there is nothing you can do, someone is chasing a hand, misses on the turn and folds to any bet.

Ok this is my analysis :

Firstly i didn't understand what you said. Your on the button and you raise , right?So isn't the BB going to act first? anyway ,
Situation A : Turn is a Blank. You do nothing , you check the turn.The Opp.t checks.
You should have made a bet here. A medium sized one.Btw , it seems as though your playing against too many crappy opponents who happen to simply call you.Are they chasing some kind of draw? Thats most likely it , so make a bet , not too large though. Make them pay to see the cards. DO not Check! thats the mistake you have made. If he happens to fold you've won yourself a raised pot.

B: This situation is best for you! If he raises , you "can" re-raise. OR if he raises take your time, and call.(better option). Dont worry about re-raising it isnt going to knock him off! ( That depends on your opponent though , if he's tight dont re-raise). Ok , now since he has raised , you SHOULD check on the turn. Wait for him to make a huge bet.since he's the aggressor he will make the bet. Get him to go all-in , and there you've got yourself a huge pot. If he dosent bet he most likely has nothing or a really good hand. IF your confident of your monster you bet on the river. You'll win money anyway , and you even get to hide your hand.

I perfer to build the pot some rather than hope for them to hit something they feel like playing with. As long as you don't make a monster sized bet there a good chance they'll come along for the ride. get enough of their money in the pot and they'll be committed to calling later, especially if they hit their draw.

For myself It generally depends on the table and players, how they have been playing, calling raiseing since they sat at the table.

all that aside if you raised pre flop i'm thinking you need to bet the flop, bet it weaker tho as if it was a continuation bet or such. On the turn I would consider checking if I'm aginst an agressive player, If you know they will try and take control of the hand if you give it up...do it! If very passive then best to continue with lowish bets hoping they connect and toss out a re-raise for you to rake in : )

usually when you flop a monster you want to extract as much value as you can from your opponent-however you have to be carefull and boards with 2 cards to a flush or paired boards that can come back and haunt you if you dont hold the absolute nuts-for the most part if the opponent is competent they will give up on the hand even if you throw a min raise out there-u just have to know how to disguise your hand as well as possible-the_urge27

Usually, I would say check or minimum bet. Min. bet might be even better, some may thnik you are making a weak bluff and reraise.

mrknwitall said:

Ok this is my analysis :

Firstly i didn't understand what you said. Your on the button and you raise , right?So isn't the BB going to act first? anyway ,
Situation A : Turn is a Blank. You do nothing , you check the turn.The Opp.t checks.
You should have made a bet here. A medium sized one.Btw , it seems as though your playing against too many crappy opponents who happen to simply call you.Are they chasing some kind of draw? Thats most likely it , so make a bet , not too large though. Make them pay to see the cards. DO not Check! thats the mistake you have made. If he happens to fold you've won yourself a raised pot.

B: This situation is best for you! If he raises , you "can" re-raise. OR if he raises take your time, and call.(better option). Dont worry about re-raising it isnt going to knock him off! ( That depends on your opponent though , if he's tight dont re-raise). Ok , now since he has raised , you SHOULD check on the turn.

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Uh no, the small blind acts first. But I like your logic here. As someone mentioned, you can wait until after the river, making it looking like you;re trying to steal. But the thing is, if they were staying in on a draw (and of course they WILL if checked to), and DON'T hit, they are not going to call your 'steal' raise anyway. Most will just 'save it for another day'. That said, I like to do what looks like a 'modest C-bet'. Or even a min-raise, which can incite some action on many levels (i.e. 'definitely did not hit' or 'that's worth calling').

Nothing wrong with a check. I heard someone on tv once talk about setting the trap and covering it with twigs with high hopes of getting the first available sucker to fall in. Sounds like a great plan and even better if your apponent actually gets half a hand to take a stab at the pot.

Not all trappers wear fir hats, but most do!

checkoutcardschat said:

Situation: HU SNG - regular 9 player SNG - or MTT

You raise on the button and get the BB (slightly LAG) to call.
You flop a true monster (full house or well hidden straight)- hand is very unlikely to get beat
You continuation bet the flop and:

A- Oppt calls
Turn is a blank
I check the turn
Seems like every time I check the turn to induce a bluff bet the BB just checks then I bet the river and he/she folds
Should I bet the turn?
B- Oppt raises:smile: and you call (three bet would likely knock opponent out of hand)
Turn is a blank
Seems like every time I check the turn to induce a bluff bet the BB just checks then I bet the river and he/she folds
Should I bet the turn?

Any thoughts on how I could improve my play on these RARE situations where I actually flop a monster?

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On almost all monsters that I raised preflop, I continuation bet like I would if I missed. Unless I had something so dominating that he definately had to catch something on the turn to have some kind of draw or pair. Then I would give him a free card on the turn. Most monsters are hard to win a big pot unless they can catch up.

If you don't normally check it down after you raise PF, it sends out a message to the LAG that something is going on.

If you're going to continuation bet, you need to continue that bet the entire time. Once you check on the turn, you're doing two things. One, you're giving that person a chance to take a free card on the river that could end up hurting you. Secondly, it should show weakness, but unless that person hits (or is uber agressive) you're not going to get a bet on the river.

Well sometimes better go all-in on the turn, as the table fellows might think you're stealing blinds. If you do it 3 or 4 times in a game, then you'll be probably called later when playing a monster that way. Meaning that you have to plan the way you play hands and mostly monsters if you want to grab much chips.

hojediade said:

Well sometimes better go all-in on the turn, as the table fellows might think you're stealing blinds. If you do it 3 or 4 times in a game, then you'll be probably called later when playing a monster that way. Meaning that you have to plan the way you play hands and mostly monsters if you want to grab much chips.

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I wouldn't advise this in any way !!!

You cannot plan monsters.

I like the idea of c-betting 1/2 the pot like I always do when I raise pre-flop and then checking the turn.

If he calls your c-bet it makes your c-bet look like it was a bad idea if you check the turn, making them think they might have the upper hand. And then check-raise the river big, or if checked to you can just bet the pot making it look like you're trying to steal.

In my mind, if you got a monster hand on the flop like trips, str8 or better, and if this hand can't be guessed, as you just call a raise pre-flop or bet 2.5 the BB pre-flop in position, then you could manage your hand to check-call the flop, and then if the board looks not dangerous for your monster but attractive to other players, then you could go all-in on the turn by using a check-raise or a small bet on the turn to push your opponent to make a move. If not all-in at this point, hoping that your opponent has a big hand too to call you on the river if you decided to bet big or check-raise him.
Slow play won't give you much opportunities to grab big pots on the river in my belief.
Sorry if you don't agree with that mrknwitall.

checkoutcardschat said:

Situation: HU SNG - regular 9 player SNG - or MTT

You raise on the button and get the BB (slightly LAG) to call.
You flop a true monster (full house or well hidden straight)- hand is very unlikely to get beat
You continuation bet the flop and:

A- Oppt calls
Turn is a blank
I check the turn
Seems like every time I check the turn to induce a bluff bet the BB just checks then I bet the river and he/she folds
Should I bet the turn?
B- Oppt raises:smile: and you call (three bet would likely knock opponent out of hand)
Turn is a blank
Seems like every time I check the turn to induce a bluff bet the BB just checks then I bet the river and he/she folds
Should I bet the turn?

Any thoughts on how I could improve my play on these RARE situations where I actually flop a monster?

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bet the flop and value bet the other streets.