Chasing the flush

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How often do you see yourself heads up with two pair and there is a flush draw on the board. Lets say there was no preflop raise, do you bet heavy to take it down there? Do you bet the blind and wait to see if the other suited card hits the turn? Either way you have to bet your two pair. Let's say the opponent just calls either one of those bets. The turn comes and its the other suited card. you are first to act, the big question......


DO YOU BET or CHECK......? if you bet how much?
 
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You must don't let to get their flush. My strategy is to bet half the pot, when they re-raise you, you'll know enough and fold...
 
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with my 2 pair, I have to bet 1/2 to 3/4 of pot. I dont want to give them the odds to make an easy call, I want them to really pay to chase after this hand.. I may even put them all in if I have them easily covered and ITM payout is near.
 
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Chasing flushes are usually a bad idea. You should calculate your pot odds and see if it's actually worth it to chase. Often times, you'll find that the pot odds are NOT in your favor, and it's worth it to muck your hand.
 
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How often do you see yourself heads up with two pair and there is a flush draw on the board. Lets say there was no preflop raise, do you bet heavy to take it down there?
...If there is a decent amount of money already in the pot, I would bet enough out, maybe pot sized, to try and take it uncontested. However, if there isn't I might bet a bit smaller, maybe 3/4s, to try and squeeze an extra bet from my opponent.

Do you bet the blind and wait to see if the other suited card hits the turn?
...If, by betting the blind, you min-betting, this is a complete no-no. The reason being is if my opponent is on the draw, min-betting gives him more than enough odds to call and hit the flush. Not to mention, you are losing so much value on your 2 pair if your opponent calls and misses.

Lets say there is $10 in the pot and you bet $1. You opponent is now getting 11:1 on their money to call when they have 4:1 odds to hit-this is a good call. Lets say they miss their draw and fold to your turn bet, well you've only extracted a $1 from your opponent. Lets say same scenerio, but you bet $7. You opponent has to call $7 for a pot of $17, getting only 2.4:1 on their money but with only 4:1 odds of hitting, this is a bad call. Again, they miss and fold on the turn, but you've extracted much more value with your hand.

Either way you have to bet your two pair. Let's say the opponent just calls either one of those bets. The turn comes and its the other suited card. you are first to act, the big question...DO YOU BET or CHECK......? if you bet how much?
...This would depend on the read of my opponents. If my opponent is known to chase draws, then I'd be more inclined to slow it down here and try to get to show down cheat. If they are first to act and they check, I'll check behind them and take a free card. Or if they bet, I might call if its small but will fold to a big river raise. If you're playing out of position, I would just check, try to see a free card, and try to see a showdown cheap. However this is for opponents who really chase their draws, for others who don't and its more likely they're calling with just a pair and not FD, betting out is definitely your better option.
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You must don't let to get their flush. My strategy is to bet half the pot, when they re-raise you, you'll know enough and fold...
Are you saying you'd bet half the pot on the flop and then fold to a reraise with just a flush draw showing and you're holding 2 pair?
Chasing flushes are usually a bad idea. You should calculate your pot odds and see if it's actually worth it to chase. Often times, you'll find that the pot odds are NOT in your favor, and it's worth it to muck your hand.
Not reading the original post and answering is usually a bad idea. You should really read and understand the OP before you throw out an answer that is completely unrelated to the topic of discussion/question in hand. Often times you'll find that your replies will make more sense and it's worth it to pay attention.
 
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chasing flush

i always seem to be on the losing end of the chase lately.
 
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I just read a few of the responses on here and have to make a comment of my own, cuz I feel I see some large blunders. If you're hit 2pr. headsup on a 2-fl brd. on the flop, you NEED to bet LARGE on the flop (not 1/2pot,.. 1/2 pot just prices the guy in, and if you're lucky, he'll reraise you with a fl.dr. & overs, a shove and it's a race,.. but maybe he's got trips?). Bet a minimum of 'pot' on the flop, or overbet the pot, say 1.5xpot, you want your opponent to be making MISTAKE to call your bet. If he calls and hits his flush,... too bad. But you always want to try to have him making a mistake if he were to call your bet (if he's on a fl. dr. without overs to the board, it'll be a huge mistake for him to call here).

Flop 2pr. on a 2-fl board, bet it hard! It also is dependant upon your table image and style of play. I'm only suggesting strategy here, taking into account that you're a TAG style player (similiar to what would be written in a poker book by a pro, as there strategy is based largely upon TAG style). If you've been playing weak/passive poker, the bet may also be good, as they'll be expecting you to check your strong hands. I suppose you could play it safe, let them hit or miss their potential draw here.. but how will you even know if they're on the draw if you don't come out betting? If you're playing TAG style poker, you will be more apt to get paid off and will win more pots. In this case, the flopped 2pr. on a 2-fl brd. warrants a big bet by you... bigger than the pot.
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If you are playing in a tourney, I think you should just check let them bet because they are not going to fold on the flop, however on the turn, if they don't hit the flush I then bet big to make them pay a big price to draw. If you bet big on the flop they are going to chase and with two cards to come they have a great chance to hit. If you bet big and they call, they feel committed to chase to end. If you bet big on turn they are less inclined to keep drawing with nothing else invested. This is especially true in the middle stages.

In the early and late stages the mind set of most players is to hit big fast and they are going to call any bet you make, so make your decision based on that fact. i personally wait till the turn to make people make hard decision because this is where most players have the biggest problem making good decisions. If they call me on the turn flushing then i will take that any day. If they fold good. I can live with any outcome then. If you are playing a sophisticated table then you need to play normal and bet by pot odds.
 
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yes BET! take a feel of how he reacts to ur bet. if he re-raises you should know you are beat. unless you are playing against a loose player and suspect a bluff or something but the safe thing to do if he does re-raise is to fold.
 
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bet big

I agree with peach, you have to bet big to deter them from getting their flush cheaply....just my humble opinion

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I would bet at it but not much more than the blind just to see how they respond.If you have a good hand they probably are betting the flush.I think the odds of them hitting is 37% i could be wrong,hope this helped
 
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interesting question. Are you worried that your opponent has a flush draw as well?
 
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i usually wont chase a flush, but if i do ill usually have overcards from the flop that i see...
 
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i want to be favorite to chasing flush draw like you know trips , flush draw st8 flush draw , st8 draw thank you there you go or something like that
 
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