Chasing draws OOP

Hey guys a Big problem I'm having which is leaking some cash from my BR is chasing draws OOP.


NL5


Ex. Hero MP - AJs H Villain CO- cards unknown


Hero open to .15
Villain 3bets to .45
Hero calls.
Pot size is .70


Flop comes QhKs5h


this is where I get stuck especially out of position, I know if I check he will probably raise anywhere from 1/2 pot 3/4 or even full pot size bet, which gives me bad odds.


End up trying to make a blocker bet of about .25, villain calls, turn is a dead card pot is now .95, if I make another block pot I believe he will probably re raise me. I end up checking he pets full pot, I fold.


Please help as I get stuck in this situation quite often. thank you

Feel free to correct me, but I believe that donking generally indicates weakness.

Why do you bet below 1/2 the pot? Would you do this in other situations as well?

Anyway, according to my simulations, your hand should have a 75% all-in equity at the flop (ace-high and a flush + straight draw). This is excluding fold equity. I would have played your hand more strongly, like you would have played other cards, so "check to the raiser" would have been more accurate.

This is, of course, assuming that you called pre-flop with AJs OOP. I might have done the same, but some people might advocate otherwise, I guess. But I guess it also depends on your opponent's stats.

If you are going to donk on the flop. I would continue to bet on the turn (BIGGER size) to keep the story that you are strong.
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Alternate you could check call on the flop and either check raise or fold on the turn.
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Donking isn't necessarily "weak". Mainly you can tell by someone's bet sizing. If they bet really small usually they are doing a "blocker" bet.

Muckem said:

Hey guys a Big problem I'm having which is leaking some cash from my BR is chasing draws OOP.


NL5


Ex. Hero MP - AJs H Villain CO- cards unknown


Hero open to .15
Villain 3bets to .45
Hero calls.
Pot size is .70


Flop comes QhKs5h


this is where I get stuck especially out of position, I know if I check he will probably raise anywhere from 1/2 pot 3/4 or even full pot size bet, which gives me bad odds.


End up trying to make a blocker bet of about .25, villain calls, turn is a dead card pot is now .95, if I make another block pot I believe he will probably re raise me. I end up checking he pets full pot, I fold.


Please help as I get stuck in this situation quite often. thank you

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You’re not asking the right questions. Ask yourself what information do I have on this player. My guess is none or very little. Even if you play live, this information can improve your entire game.

Here's a simple method.
Calculate the outs, Calculate pot odds & play mathematically.

Donking into the 3better makes very little sense & you are bloating the pot. Keep it simple & sweet.
Assuming you didn't have AJ of hearts you have 4 outs for the straight & one of it is a bad one.
I'd not chase this neither would I donk.

What are you trying to draw to? - a gutshot? --- ha ha ha

Man..., give up on playing cards for money. You have no idea what you're doing. Give it up!

Stuey said:

What are you trying to draw to? - a gutshot? --- ha ha ha

Man..., give up on playing cards for money. You have no idea what you're doing. Give it up!

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If you look a the information he posted, he has AJ suited hearts, and the flop has two hearts. So he has the gut shot AND a nut flush draw. 13 outs. On the flop, that gives him around a 52% chance of hitting his card by the river. His chances of hitting one of his cards is slightly higher than his chances of not hitting it. In a worse case scenario, lets assume the other guy has a set or two pair that includes one of the non heart cards. So subtract one out for the heart that would pair the board. So 12 outs instead of 13. He still has around a 48% chance of hitting his card by the river. So on the flop, he would be justified in making or calling a bet that equals less than 48% of the pot size. His bet and calls were much lower than that percentage. I would say that his mistake was not making another block bet on the turn.