the change from 1/2$ live to 2/5$

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I have been a successful 1/2$ for about a year now and want to attempt to play at the 2/5$ level instead ,is there any tips advice or information on the difference in style of play that would help me to survive at a higher stake.
 
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Of course, but this type of question is largely player/scenario dependent.

Do you play live or online?

It's hard to be specific but I can tell you one thing with ABSOLUTE certainty, because I have played an enormous amount at both 1/2 and 2/4 (online, at least)

When you move up a level your going to subconsciously give your opponents more credit, your going to assume they are better players capable of more plays. If you were successful at 1/2, and I mean genuinally successful over a legitimate sample size, your game will translate to 2/5 very very easily. Even in this day and age your going to find that players are still proned to making mistakes. If you minimize your mistakes at 2/5 but play fearless you won't have problems.

I've played in 10/20 games where I've seen insane tilt/ fish spews. It doesn't really matter the level just have confidence in what you can do and trust your reads.

Secondly, make sure you are properly bankrolled so that it doesn't negatively influence your playing style.
 
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i think the players are more aggressive at the 2/5 level personally. i think you tightening up your starting hand requirements is good when you first sit down. Also i notice more attempting to stell blinds snice the blinds are higher then 1/2 it makes it wot it alot more.
My take on 2/5 live this comes from playing it before at the commerce and Hollywood park casino
 
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Live 2/5 NL players are slightly better and slightly more aggressive, but there is not a huge difference between live 1/2 NL and live 2/5 NL.

If you want to familiarize yourself with the level of play at live 2/5 NL, you should check out Live at the Bike shows when they are showcasing $500 max 3/5 NL or $1000 max 5/5 NL. Live at the Bike is an online streaming show where they show hole cards for players in an LA cash game over 2 hours or so (15 minute delay, I guess).

If you are really serious about making a painless transition from live 1/2 NL to live 2/5 NL, you should check out www.crushlivepoker.com. It is an poker training site dedicated to live poker. Besides the expert level poker strategy podcasts by Bart Hanson, you get to see training videos that feature footage of real cash games with actual live low-stakes NLHE players doing typical live low-stakes NLHE stuff. I think you can still sign up for a free months' trial subscription at CrushLivePoker using a promo code just to check out the live 2/5 NL content without paying anything (10% chance that the Crush Live Poker promotion has expired...although I doubt it).
 
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I disagree that play isn't that much different at MOST 1/2's as compared with 2/5's in a given casino.

You can basically nut peddle and play really tight and yet still seemingly get action from players at MOST 1/2 game, but this isn't the case in an avg. 2/5 game.


The players notice what type of player you are and play much more exploitive poker.

Also, postflop is much more aggressive in 2/5...
 
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If you watch Guss hansen's play or Negreanu you will notice that when they play a 10$ sit n go tournament and a 10 000$ big tournament you will see that there is no difference in their play. I think that they can play so good even if they dont pick up their cards, just on the opponent action. There is no difference in prospective strategy if you play poker on 0,01/0,02 and 1000/2000$ blinds :)
 
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Yeah, I guess that 2/5 NL is somewhat more aggressive, but it isn't a huge jump in skill level. If you are a good TAG winner at 1/2 NL, it doesn't take long for you to adjust to being a good TAG winner at 2.5 NL.
 
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The money difference between 1-2 and 2-5 where i play is not much different, because the max buy in in 1-2 is $300 and the max in 2-5 is $500, but the stacks do get much deeper in 2-5, which makes it a much bigger game. The players are 1-2 are obviously worse, which makes it slightly harder to win in 2-5, but in general the players are still pretty bad in general in live 2-5 full ring games (at least where i play anyways). So if you play a solid TAG style, you should consistently crush 2-5 after moving up from 1-2, once you get comfortable with the money difference, which is pretty big. I had a $70/hr win rate after my first 800 hrs of 2-5, which is much better than the $17/hr i was making at 1-2. So while the players may be slightly better than the 1-2 players, the dollar amount you are going to win is so much higher.
 
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The money difference between 1-2 and 2-5 where i play is not much different, because the max buy in in 1-2 is $300 and the max in 2-5 is $500, but the stacks do get much deeper in 2-5, which makes it a much bigger game. The players are 1-2 are obviously worse, which makes it slightly harder to win in 2-5, but in general the players are still pretty bad in general in live 2-5 full ring games (at least where i play anyways). So if you play a solid TAG style, you should consistently crush 2-5 after moving up from 1-2, once you get comfortable with the money difference, which is pretty big. I had a $70/hr win rate after my first 800 hrs of 2-5, which is much better than the $17/hr i was making at 1-2. So while the players may be slightly better than the 1-2 players, the dollar amount you are going to win is so much higher.
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2/5 is much easier to win at. most pre-flop raises are 40-50. Its a bit pricey but people are a lot looser. I have won much more money at 2-5 then 1-2
 
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more of a tourny guy never had much luck with cash games always seem to get screwed on the rivers
 
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