Caught by two sets... should I have lost less?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($10)
Hero (SB) ($11.80)
BB ($10.65)
UTG ($10.60)
UTG+1 ($11.50)
MP1 ($14.45)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A , K
UTG bets $0.20, 4 folds, Button calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.20) 5 , 7 , K (3 players)
Hero bets $2.10, UTG calls $2.10, Button raises to $6.20, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, Button calls $3.10 (All-In)

Turn: ($22.90) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($22.90) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $22.90 | Rake: $1.10

Results below:
Button had 5

, 5

(three of a kind, fives).
Hero had A

, K

(one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Button won $21.80


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($9.55)
MP1 ($17.40)
MP2 ($4.80)
Hero (CO) ($14.65)
Button ($12.90)
SB ($10)
BB ($14.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , J
3 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) 3 , J , 8 (2 players)
SB bets $0.70, Hero raises to $2.10, SB calls $1.40

Turn: ($5.10) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero folds

Total pot: $5.10 | Rake: $0.25

Results below:
SB didn't show but told told me afterwards that he had a set.
Outcome: SB won $4.85

Ok well I am pretty happy with the way I played the second one. I feel I had to raise him when he led in to me to see where I was in the hand. He chose to call and when he bet in to me on the turn, I was sure I was beat.

I put him on a set, maybe a better jack or even QQ. Could I have gathered the info and achieved this for less cash?

The first hand I don't know what happened. I don't feel I get caught out by sets anywhere near as often as I used to. I had been 4 tabling 10NL for over 2 hours and lack of focus and tilt may have been creeping in. How do you guys think i played the first hand? I'm guessing not as well as the second!

Thanks again people!

Frank.

3-bet larger in hand #1, and don't raise the flop in hand #2.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/

why not raise flop in #2? im not saying your wrong just trying to learn what your thinking

bigboi26 said:

why not raise flop in #2? im not saying your wrong just trying to learn what your thinking

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Yes I agree in the first hand I should have bet a little more though I doubt I would have prived out a low PP.

Adrenalin, I can kind of see your reasoning for not raising the flop on hand 2 but what do you suggest I do instead. I guess folding is out of the question so that just leaves a flat call.

Are you suggesting that I flat call as the PF raiser with TP weak kicker and then float?

Would this be a cheaper way to glean the info that I need to make the good laydown?

Is he really likely to check the turn if I suddenly go weak after the flop?

you played most of it as expected. In hand 1 a bigger than 4x raise is asking a bit much. I'd treat villain's min raise with suspicion on a low flop.
A good rule for the micros is to alwas fold TP to a reraise.
hand 2 I dont see why not to raise TP on the flop with on a 2-tone board.

I would raise the first hand to $1. You already have an UTG raiser and caller that will both have position on you post flop. On such a dry board I don't think I would be getting away from TPTK there.

Second one, I don't think flat calling is bad here, mainly for pot control. We don't exactly have a great hand but SB could be betting his second pair, low pockets. I don't think he would be donking into you with the flush draw...

Deceitful_Frank said:

Yes I agree in the first hand I should have bet a little more though I doubt I would have prived out a low PP.

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The point is not necessarily to get him to fold his pp. But by 3betting larger, he'll give you more when his set-mining misses. What matters is that when you play this hand 1000 times, that he hits a set 117 times and misses 883 times, you get out ahead on average.

Deceitful_Frank said:

Are you suggesting that I flat call as the PF raiser with TP weak kicker

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Yes. It controls the pot size (we don't want to play a big pot with TPNK), and it allows you to gain equity against our opponent's draws that would bet/3-bet this flop as a semi-bluff. Plus, there are a few turn cards we don't mind seeing (Q's, J's, T's, 9's all improve our hand, 3's and 8's make a set less likely).

This is more of a question on hand 2 than a response, but:

by reraising the 2nd hand would you guys say that you would only fold out hands you beat and only get called by hands that beat you?