Cash impatience and boredom

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Looking for some opinions and help:

Before Black Friday I was playing as high as $75/$150 Limit O8 online, but now I am struggling to be profitable in live games as low as $4/$8 and $8/$16 O8 and LHE.

The level of thinking in these games seems to be "Oh, it's my turn, I call", but when my hands do not hold up, I get impatient and start playing poorly. Then, when I lose, I want to play a higher game instead of continuing to grind and end up compounding bad sessions.

This has hampered my ability to re-build my poker bankroll and the frustration is palpable at this point.

I have spent the last few months practicing small stakes online, but can't help but still feel bored by the stakes. I have no problem staying focused and playing good tournament strategy no matter the stakes, but when I play cash games I just can not seem to manage my bankroll properly and am losing due to boredom and impatience.

Any advice would be appreciated! (Even if it is just to stick to tournaments!) :)
 
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Start a smaller online cash game with a target of a great winrate that is above the normal winrate. That will give you some motivation to keep grinding it for thousands of hands. Play for the winrate instead of the money.
 
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I can advise to play in Zoom Сash, all quickly there, it is unnecessary to wait long for hands to play
 
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How many tables do you play when you play cash games? And tournaments?

Maybe increase the # of tables until you are getting enough hands to keep you from getting bored.
 
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Manage your bankroll, dude.
At the highstakes you will find majority of times only the sharks;
 
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I play multi tables for that very reason,,, Boredom...It affects me the same way when I play a single table. Get bored and play hands that I have no reason to be in.
 
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I play multi tables for that very reason,,, Boredom...It affects me the same way when I play a single table. Get bored and play hands that I have no reason to be in.

Thanks all for the replies.

Will try playing more tables/zoom online and playing for as high a win-rate as possible to keep things interesting in live games.

Also reading up on transitioning from online to live games as I've never really looked into what adjustments I should actually be making to combat the call-bots.

GL at the tables. :)
 
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Before Black Friday I was playing as high as $75/$150 Limit O8 online, but now I am struggling to be profitable in live games as low as $4/$8 and $8/$16 O8 and LHE.

The level of thinking in these games seems to be "Oh, it's my turn, I call", but when my hands do not hold up, I get impatient and start playing poorly. Then, when I lose, I want to play a higher game instead of continuing to grind and end up compounding bad sessions.

This doesnt seem to make sense. How do you think black Friday has impacted on your win rate if you claim the ability of 4/8 and 8/16 is so poor?
 
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I think the reference to black Friday was about the fact that the level of play has gone up significantly. I agree with posts above. Try more tables and/or Zoom. Creating goals for yourself to "gamify" things should help as well (i.e. - increase your winrate, try to correctly identify opponents holdings 3x in a row, etc).
 
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try reading "Mental game of poker" it's not something very new that you never might thought about but it might help
 
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I think the reference to black Friday was about the fact that the level of play has gone up significantly.

Yes I thought that as well, but the second point op made (ie nobody folds) was in direct contradiction.
 
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Maybe it would help to only bring enough for 2 buy ins, and leave your credit cards at home. The stakes may seem more meaningful without immediate access to more money.
 
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Maybe it would help to only bring enough for 2 buy ins, and leave your credit cards at home. The stakes may seem more meaningful without immediate access to more money.

I agree with this.
Having a way to get more money, makes you think "I can just refill if i lose"
 
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I have this problem.. as well as the exact opposite. HAVING TOO MUCH FUN!

Sitting down for too long after reaching my short term goal.
 
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In the UK, we have an advertising standard comment that may apply to you.

When the fun stops; STOP!

If you are bored, why play? Go and do something less boring instead.

If the answer is, cos I want to make some money, then the psychological answer is simple..... Stop letting yourself get bored. Focus on why you are playing poker. If (Again) it's to make money, then that surely should be sufficient to beat the boredom bug.

If you play poker for fun..... Then it doesn't sound much like fun and you really should go do something else.

Once you have overcome this hurdle, then you can start thinking about how you play and changing your strategy to make yourself a better player.

Best wishes

BentleyBoy
 
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In the UK, we have an advertising standard comment that may apply to you.

When the fun stops; STOP!

If you are bored, why play? Go and do something less boring instead.

If the answer is, cos I want to make some money, then the psychological answer is simple..... Stop letting yourself get bored. Focus on why you are playing poker. If (Again) it's to make money, then that surely should be sufficient to beat the boredom bug.

If you play poker for fun..... Then it doesn't sound much like fun and you really should go do something else.

Once you have overcome this hurdle, then you can start thinking about how you play and changing your strategy to make yourself a better player.

Best wishes

BentleyBoy

I think you've hit on something here, I don't particularly enjoy playing the cash games I've been in recently and they haven't very profitable lately, so I will work on making changes to my game and mindset before trying again.

Thank you for your help! :D
 
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Multi-Table

I've played poker off an on for a number of years. I just recently started getting back into it and I found the same problem. I get bored and that causes me to play too loose. As a result I now multi-table. I found 3 tables was the sweet spot unless they are really slow tables I go for 4. With multi-table there is always something going on so I have an easy time throwing away shit hands and waiting for good pocket cards.
 
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Stick to what you do best.Boredoms are bad for your bankroll.
 
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Play more tables if you are bored
 
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I will solve your problems in one word

yoga

back as tables and roll up !

:)
 
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cash impatience and boredom is the worst enemy you can find in the poker as you take to lose muycho or in the case of tournaments do eliminated
 
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... but when I play cash games I just can not seem to manage my bankroll properly and am losing due to boredom and impatience.
A few ideas..

  1. Ask yourself WHY you are playing cash games. Perhaps the problem has something to do with the reason that you are playing cash games in the first place. If the game type is not aligned with your goals...
  2. Perhaps at a low (micro) stakes cash game you are thinking in terms of $$ (hard to et excited about the small stuff). Instead, think in terms of big blinds you have won/lost. This subtle change in thinking might help keep you engaged because you'd be focused on the increments, not the actual $$.
  3. In micro/low stakes there are many opinions on how many big blinds/100 a "good player" can make. Determine how many bb/100 you believe a good player makes. Challenge yourself to prove you are a good player over some amount of hands.
Good luck!
 
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