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This Fish Chums

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Whatever you're sitting down with, if your cash game has a max buy-in then pay special attention to people who are breaking their max buy-in by quite a bit. This means they've taken that extra money from other players because they weren't allowed to deposit it. So whether they are just good or just having a high variance day, you may want to consider steering clear of them. They're not just the big stack, they're a big stack who's having a great day.
 
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I couldn't agree more! Very good advice!
 
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So are you implying that everyone should avoid any player that has higher more than 100bb at the table? Whilst i agree that anyone with a full stack or more is much more likely to be a reg, there are plenty of bad players who can build stacks and i want to be playing more pots with these players, not avoiding them.
 
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I love other big stacks at the table, because when I have a stack they are the only one who can double me up.

What classifies as a big stack, as how many big blinds over 100?

Also, I completely disagree with avoiding a big stack just because. Regardless of how they got their stack, adjust like you would any other player. If she's a solid player with a variable range and strong post flop play, tightening up your range and using position to your advantage may be how you want to adjust.

If it's some LAG opening light who got a lucky triple up, I'm probably gonna 3bet her more frequently with a wider range (suited aces, off suit Broadway connectors) and bet thin for value.

I'm not looking at someone's stack size as the only thing to determine skill. If I see a big stack at the table, I try to get position on them, that matters more to me than stack size. I want their money, I'm gonna attack.
 
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I'm referring to sitting at a table where you know nothing about the other opponents and someone's got a stack size of 3x max buy-in or more. I did not convey the message well, but I'm also talking about the first few orbits until you get a feel for how they actually came by their huge stack.
 
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what?

im cornfused on this one!
 
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I'm referring to sitting at a table where you know nothing about the other opponents and someone's got a stack size of 3x max buy-in or more. I did not convey the message well, but I'm also talking about the first few orbits until you get a feel for how they actually came by their huge stack.


Would you recommend avoiding someone with a deep stack (or any stack that is 2+x max buy-in), or would you recommend avoiding the table and trying to get seated somewhere else that isn't "as deep?"

What are some of your assumptions of the player who are this deep? They may run well, but do you automatically assume they are good players? Do you think they know how to play? Are they disqualified as being labeled 'fishy'?
 
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I'm referring to sitting at a table where you know nothing about the other opponents and someone's got a stack size of 3x max buy-in or more. I did not convey the message well, but I'm also talking about the first few orbits until you get a feel for how they actually came by their huge stack.

Sorry if I misunderstood the OP.
 
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thanks, good tip!
also, I just saw today: top-up your buy-in when you're all-in. When you win, you are >2* max buy-in. Great for some stack abuse.
 
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Definitely the truth. But who said that I am not lucky today? If the opponent has a big stack it's a good opportunity for to go all-in and that my bet will be paid off.
 
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Would you recommend avoiding someone with a deep stack (or any stack that is 2+x max buy-in), or would you recommend avoiding the table and trying to get seated somewhere else that isn't "as deep?"

What are some of your assumptions of the player who are this deep? They may run well, but do you automatically assume they are good players? Do you think they know how to play? Are they disqualified as being labeled 'fishy'?

I wouldn't avoid the table because, as people have said, you want others to be bigger then you for a good double up opportunity. When I first sit at the table my assumption is they attained those chips somehow, and I must be cautious until I figure out how they got them. If they are determined to be fishy then I go after them as a fish, if they are determined to be a very good player then I play carefully against them.

I REALLY did not do a good job explaining this one.
 
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