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Deceitful_Frank
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hey guys!
I wanted to start a discussion on the odds that we look for when considering calling a blind defence, for the sake of argument lets assume that he folds to the steal around 75% of the time and is an average 25/14 5NL 6-max player. I would like to add this to may strategy to give me something to work from as often I find myself getting progressively more and more cally and loose/passive in these spots throughout the poker session especially if tilt or bordom creeps in!
I understand that if he folds less to blind steals we can call wider and if he fold more then we need better odds to call this bet in position.
Having played a fair amount of HUSNGs I also know the value of varying your blind steal bet from a min-raise to 3X to manipulate his actions.
I will leave you with a couple of perhaps badly played examples and invite thoughts and ideas.
Frank.
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BB: $4.71
UTG: $6.96
MP: $0.72
CO: $9.74
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $4.34 No particular reads on this guy so we assume he is a 24/14 with a steal of 25 and a pre-flop 3-bet of 5%
SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A♣ T♣
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.14, SB raises to $0.45, fold, Hero calls $0.31
He is pretty much a full stack and I am getting 1.6:1
Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) Q♣ 7♣ 3♠
SB bets $0.85, Hero raises to $4.55 and is all-in, SB calls $3.04 and is all-in
The board is effectively about as dry as can be considering I hold two of the clubs though in hindsight I guess I had zero fold equity here and pot equity may not have cut it!
Turn: ($8.73, 2 players) 3♣
River: ($8.73, 2 players) Q♥
SB shows J♠ J♣ (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (PreFlop 68%, Flop 57%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows A♣ T♣ (Flush, Ace High) (PreFlop 32%, Flop 43%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins $8.30
well anyway...
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
CO: $3.93
BTN: $5.00
SB: $6.56
BB: $1.73 This guy is a slightly tighter than the norm 17/11 with a steal of 24 and pre-flop 3-bet of 5% which is about average
UTG: $6.68
Hero (MP): $6.22
SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q♠ J♣
fold, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.40
Ok so I am rasing from MP here with QJ and get raised up by the blind. I guess I could give him more credit here seeing as he is likely to put me on a strong range and I am playing the very bottom of it. I am getting just over 2:1 though so I call.
Flop: ($1.22, 2 players) Q♦ 4♦ 5♦
BB bets $1.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.13
Is his what they call having reverse implied odds?!
Turn: ($3.48, 2 players) 7♦
River: ($3.48, 2 players) 3♥
BB shows Q♣ K♣ (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 75%, Flop 85%, Turn 85%)
Hero shows Q♠ J♣ (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 25%, Flop 15%, Turn 15%)
BB wins $3.31
I guess that one was a cooler...
I wanted to start a discussion on the odds that we look for when considering calling a blind defence, for the sake of argument lets assume that he folds to the steal around 75% of the time and is an average 25/14 5NL 6-max player. I would like to add this to may strategy to give me something to work from as often I find myself getting progressively more and more cally and loose/passive in these spots throughout the poker session especially if tilt or bordom creeps in!
I understand that if he folds less to blind steals we can call wider and if he fold more then we need better odds to call this bet in position.
Having played a fair amount of HUSNGs I also know the value of varying your blind steal bet from a min-raise to 3X to manipulate his actions.
I will leave you with a couple of perhaps badly played examples and invite thoughts and ideas.
Frank.
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BB: $4.71
UTG: $6.96
MP: $0.72
CO: $9.74
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $4.34 No particular reads on this guy so we assume he is a 24/14 with a steal of 25 and a pre-flop 3-bet of 5%
SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A♣ T♣
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.14, SB raises to $0.45, fold, Hero calls $0.31
He is pretty much a full stack and I am getting 1.6:1
Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) Q♣ 7♣ 3♠
SB bets $0.85, Hero raises to $4.55 and is all-in, SB calls $3.04 and is all-in
The board is effectively about as dry as can be considering I hold two of the clubs though in hindsight I guess I had zero fold equity here and pot equity may not have cut it!
Turn: ($8.73, 2 players) 3♣
River: ($8.73, 2 players) Q♥
SB shows J♠ J♣ (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (PreFlop 68%, Flop 57%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows A♣ T♣ (Flush, Ace High) (PreFlop 32%, Flop 43%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins $8.30
well anyway...
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
CO: $3.93
BTN: $5.00
SB: $6.56
BB: $1.73 This guy is a slightly tighter than the norm 17/11 with a steal of 24 and pre-flop 3-bet of 5% which is about average
UTG: $6.68
Hero (MP): $6.22
SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q♠ J♣
fold, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.40
Ok so I am rasing from MP here with QJ and get raised up by the blind. I guess I could give him more credit here seeing as he is likely to put me on a strong range and I am playing the very bottom of it. I am getting just over 2:1 though so I call.
Flop: ($1.22, 2 players) Q♦ 4♦ 5♦
BB bets $1.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.13
Is his what they call having reverse implied odds?!
Turn: ($3.48, 2 players) 7♦
River: ($3.48, 2 players) 3♥
BB shows Q♣ K♣ (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 75%, Flop 85%, Turn 85%)
Hero shows Q♠ J♣ (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 25%, Flop 15%, Turn 15%)
BB wins $3.31
I guess that one was a cooler...
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