C Betting!!!

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Just had a quick run through my stats and find I am C betting almost every hand I PF raise with against 1 to 2 opponents. Though it has been working tremendously for me recently just wondering if C betting almost every hand im the aggressor in is dangerous? Do I want to be C betting this often?
I know they say dont fix what isnt broken but Im just wondering if this is a possible future leak in my game?

Any advice on C betting????
 
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Im cbetting around 65-75% right now i like to be aggressive on the flop.. depending on my opponent though.. I have the fold to cbet stat on my HUD so i base my decision to cbet or not on the flop and how tight the player is.. interested to see what more experience players think tho..
 
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Yeah thats similiar to me at the moment. Just wondering what other players say in terms of what flops to Cbet and what ones to not. ?
 
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From the books I have read, and info I have gathered, c-betting against 2 or less opponents (3 total in hand) is a profitable play in the long run (+ev).

More than 2 opponents is -ev.

If you go to the flop HU, I believe there is a 68% chance your opponent missed the flop. However, I don't think the 68% includes draws.

I am fairly comfident this info is accurate. Hopefully someone else will confirm this, or set me straight if I'm wrong.
 
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It's true that cbetting when you miss the flop will work better with less opponents but the number of opponents shouldn't be the only consideration - the types of opponents (are the fit or fold types?) and the texture of the flop (does it fit my perceived range?) are also important considerations.
 
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One of my flaws is when I am c-betting. Sometimes I do it without thinking and then I noticed I am CBetting very time and is hard not to. And people beleieve me less and start calling my C-betting.
 
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If it's profitable at these stakes go ahead and cbet like a maniac as long as nobody is adjusting to it. In higher stakes you won't get away with this , you will have to start working on your ranges.
 
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Yeah, about 65-75% CBet seems about right. Also, what Micro and Nuts said.
 
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Any ideas on what flops you want to be Cbetting when playing better players?
 
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How much do you usually cbet? Do you make it a certain percentage of the pot or BB's? Also do you c-bet all streets?
 
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Any ideas on what flops you want to be Cbetting when playing better players?


You need to take your table image into account here, especially against better players who are paying attention.

For example:

If you are very tight, and you only raise 9-9+ or A-J+, then others might have caught on to this. So if the flop comes 8-4-2 rainbow, it may not be believable that you made a hand here.

Try to think how others perceive your play. If you are c-betting with nothing you should still be representing something on the board. Even if you opponent doesn't know what you have, it has to be a plausible story you are telling.

However, position is key. If they check to you (hopefully you are heads up or 3 way max), c-bet anyways.

And finally, realize that every situation is dynamic. There are always factors on the table that must be considered before any course of action is taken.

Just my $0.02
 
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How much do you usually cbet? Do you make it a certain percentage of the pot or BB's? Also do you c-bet all streets?


Generally a percentage of the pot. Depending on the game and players, half pot is a good starting point. However, table dynamics play a huge role in bet sizing.

Your bet sizing should be fairly consistent. You don't want to give away the strength of your hand by betting different amounts. Skilled opponents may and will likely pick up on these clues.

Just my $0.02
 
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Generally a percentage of the pot. Depending on the game and players, half pot is a good starting point. However, table dynamics play a huge role in bet sizing.

Your bet sizing should be fairly consistent. You don't want to give away the strength of your hand by betting different amounts. Skilled opponents may and will likely pick up on these clues.

Just my $0.02

Yes that is something i constantly do, Consistant bet sizing!

and yep generally c bet around 3 quarters the pot depending on players.
 
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You are handling your c bets correctly. Failing to c bet most of the time is a huge leak with only 1 or 2 players in the pot with you.
 
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Continue firing...you can always tinker with your c-bet sizing to maximize the ev of this bet (player/texture factors), and check behind if you opened let's say... a baby pair on a board that is very wet.
 
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I think you need to know your opponents style, a cbet with a weak hand against loose opponents can be tricky they will call you light often quite possibly with a slightly stronger weak hand but it will hard for you to be confident either way.
Also effective stacks are important.When you cbet a low stack and are called, be prepared to call an all-in on a future street, or your cbet is dead money, because you are forced to fold.
 
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You supply nowhere near enough info. Though I only read OP so maybe you give more in afterposts. Point is, your sample for this is prolly ridiculously too small to consider, and secondly, it depends on board textures. There is right and wrong board textures for it.
 
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Cbetting

This is something you have to be careful with. C betting in my opinion is like AK is the most over played move in poker. This is more old school poker views. And now days everyone is expecting you to do that.
This is something that has been drilled in our heads to always do. Because everyone and the books say that its always likely that your opponent has missed the flop too. You have to base your decision on the flop. The texture of the flop, and how many opponents in the hand with you and your position. If you have two or more in the hand with you. Do you really want to be c-betting with no pair or no draws of eight outs or more????. Why do you want to be giving your chips away? What do you do if you are called or raised with nothing?
If it has been working. Then I would say you found your answer for the moment. You have to figure out what works for you.
 
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Dude bumped a 10 month old thread.


Blah.:D
 
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Just had a quick run through my stats and find I am C betting almost every hand I PF raise with against 1 to 2 opponents. Though it has been working tremendously for me recently just wondering if C betting almost every hand im the aggressor in is dangerous? Do I want to be C betting this often?
I know they say dont fix what isnt broken but Im just wondering if this is a possible future leak in my game?

Any advice on C betting????

Depends on your table but yes it can be dangerous if you have dangerous opponents in the hand with you.

I prefer to call a c-bet against aggressive foes because they will often shut down on the turn or river without bluff success, where as if I re-raise the flop and lose that pot it can seriously damage my image.

In addition I'l sometimes check the flop with air or the nuts when ive raised pre flop the K or A comes. with the intention of calling/check raising... or even check/calling and barreling/check raising the turn - which extracts more value - good players will respect a check call/raise if you have been tricky or elusive with a made hand
 
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cbetting multi-way always gets "respect". would prob only do it when you have some kind of equity you can barrel.
 
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the game has moved on from solo cbetting - generally IMO you never want to really do this unless you are happy to double barrel. Look for high fold to cbets on your HUD and choose your spots carefully for the old school solo cbet.
 
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