Originally Posted by WVHillbilly
I fail to see any reason to bet.
Assuming unknown villains, I check.
If the action behind me goes bet/call, I fold flop.
If it goes ch/bet, I call.
OK, we are dealing with unknowns here, and I guess that makes the difference.
In the calling range of UK (x2), I am putting Ax for sure, but a LOT of non A hands. Since we have the initiative here, and their range can include so many hands we beat, why would you advocate checking here? We leave our self open to a check/bet, which you say call, but then OTT we are still in the dark, especially if the check calls as well. If the turn comes K or Q, isnt this in his c betting range/ his calling the c bet range if we check?
Dont we take the pot enough, if a raise comes we have a pretty easy fold, and if he calls, well, hmm that suks.... but dont we clear his/their ranges and mainly end the hand with a c bet?
Of course, I still need to sharpen my tools so, I may be missing something here.