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1. do you change your requirements when calling multiway or one player in a raised pot at lp and if you do how much you would loosen or tighten up if calling one player or multiple ones and what criteria do you use to construct your range?

2. do you treat the co position more like the hijack or more like the button? i see players who may call any two suited , 67o+ and so onnn on the button yet they only call 78s+ 22+ Ajs ,KQs+ on the co , what do you think about it?

3. if you are like 30bb how much would you reduce your calling on lp? would you include KTs type hands? how much do you reduce your suited brodways or even some high cards like AJ , KQ?
 
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1. What? You obviously want a hand that plays good multiway in this spot like Suited connectors and pocket pairs. Basically you want pot odds in your favor, if it is going multi way against 3 short stacks with 30BB each just fold, but if everyone is 100BB deep you can call wider.

2. I treat it like the CO, it is not a good idea to flat from the CO because you are basically hoping the button folds or that you flop a good hand. Flatting in the cut off opens you up to squeezes and puts you at a chance of being OOP during the hand.

3. We should never be 30bb deep in a cash game and if for some crazy reason we are why would we play KTs? If I was 30bb deep I would never flat in late position because a shove is much more effective.
 
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IPlay said:
1. What? You obviously want a hand that plays good multiway in this spot like Suited connectors and pocket pairs. Basically you want pot odds in your favor, if it is going multi way against 3 short stacks with 30BB each just fold, but if everyone is 100BB deep you can call wider.

2. I treat it like the CO, it is not a good idea to flat from the CO because you are basically hoping the button folds or that you flop a good hand. Flatting in the cut off opens you up to squeezes and puts you at a chance of being OOP during the hand.

3. We should never be 30bb deep in a cash game and if for some crazy reason we are why would we play KTs? If I was 30bb deep I would never flat in late position because a shove is much more effective.
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you can def still have a flatting range IP in cash that short you want stuff you can flop strong equity to the nuts and get it in
 
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IPlay said:
1. What? You obviously want a hand that plays good multiway in this spot like Suited connectors and pocket pairs. Basically you want pot odds in your favor, if it is going multi way against 3 short stacks with 30BB each just fold, but if everyone is 100BB deep you can call wider.

2. I treat it like the CO, it is not a good idea to flat from the CO because you are basically hoping the button folds or that you flop a good hand. Flatting in the cut off opens you up to squeezes and puts you at a chance of being OOP during the hand.

3. We should never be 30bb deep in a cash game and if for some crazy reason we are why would we play KTs? If I was 30bb deep I would never flat in late position because a shove is much more effective.
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2. If you have no range in the calling in the cutoff because it opens you up to squeezes, then surely you can create a range based on how often players are squeezing right? e.g. if the buttons squeezing a lot to calls behind then you can just flat with the top of your range then put in a 4bet, and balance this calling with playable hands postflop.
Imo you have to have a range for calling from the co, you don't want to just be 3betting or folding.
 
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babydrago9 said:
2. If you have no range in the calling in the cutoff because it opens you up to squeezes, then surely you can create a range based on how often players are squeezing right? e.g. if the buttons squeezing a lot to calls behind then you can just flat with the top of your range then put in a 4bet, and balance this calling with playable hands postflop.
Imo you have to have a range for calling from the co, you don't want to just be 3betting or folding.
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It is fine to flat hands from the CO but not ATC like he was saying. I guess I could of worded that a little bit better.
 
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