Building my BR after being stacked $10. Advice appreciated

A good friend of mine stacked me on PS a few days ago. He gave me $10 to start my grind with. I know I'm limited to 2NL for awhile so I have a few questions.

How big should my BR be before moving up to say the 5NL game?

Should I try to reach a certain amount of hands in a session?

How do you determine win rate? (I see people talking about 5.4/100BB or 11/100BB?? What does this mean)

I started grinding yesterday at the 2NL level and after one hr my Br reached $19. I feel confident in my game and believe I can slowly grow my BR but I do not want to get ahead of myself and blow through it as I've read many people have once reaching success.

What to do if I feel the urge to move up in levels before my BR allows it?
I know this is more of a discipline based question but I want to see what others have to say.

Also I know one session of NLHE is nowhere near enough to know if I'm a winning player or not but I would like any help I can get.

slimez said:

A good friend of mine stacked me on PS a few days ago. He gave me $10 to start my grind with. I know I'm limited to 2NL for awhile so I have a few questions.

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Stacked or staked? If he stacked you, he's not that good of a friend

You probably need about $100 to start playing 5NL as it'll give you 20 buyins which should be enough to survive variance if you're a decent player.

As a beginner I would suggest $100 before moving up to 5nl which is 20 buyins.

As for the winrate question it is shown as 5bb/100. This means that every 100 hands you win 5bb's over all of the hands you have played. So say I play 1000 hands and win a buyin or 100bb's (big blinds) my winrate for those 1000 hands is 10bb/100.

Setting a limit for your sessions is a good habit. I like to set time limits like half an hour or an hour. Depending on how many tables you play you could set a limit like 500 or 1000 hands too.

LuckyChippy said:

As a beginner I would suggest $100 before moving up to 5nl which is 20 buyins.

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This. The most common bankroll management i've seen is to have 20 buy ins for each level(so 20buy ins for .01/.02 is $40 because one buy in is $2, 20 for .02/.05 is $100 etc), until you get to the higher levels like .25/.50 or .50/1.

jbbb said:

Stacked or staked? If he stacked you, he's not that good of a friend

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Lol I just noticed that I wrote stacked. Thank you for the correction.

LuckyChippy said:

As a beginner I would suggest $100 before moving up to 5nl which is 20 buyins.

As for the winrate question it is shown as 5bb/100. This means that every 100 hands you win 5bb's over all of the hands you have played. So say I play 1000 hands and win a buyin or 100bb's (big blinds) my winrate for those 1000 hands is 10bb/100.

Setting a limit for your sessions is a good habit. I like to set time limits like half an hour or an hour. Depending on how many tables you play you could set a limit like 500 or 1000 hands too.

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Thank you, I understand now. I usually play between 2-4 tables depending on how the games are being played after a few orbits. Assuming I play 4 tables constantly, what would be a decent amount of hands to play? Also what type of goal should I set my win rate to? What is a high yet realistic goal?

slimez said:

Thank you, I understand now. I usually play between 2-4 tables depending on how the games are being played after a few orbits. Assuming I play 4 tables constantly, what would be a decent amount of hands to play? Also what type of goal should I set my win rate to? What is a high yet realistic goal?

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FR or 6max, all I know is 6max, I play 6 tables and average about 500 hands in an hour. FR will get less hands per hour.

Don't try and set a winrate goal, just play your best, make the best decisions you can and the winrate and money will come with it.

A good winrate at 2nl is about 10bb/100, but something like 30bb is attainable if you're really good.

slimez said:

Thank you, I understand now. I usually play between 2-4 tables depending on how the games are being played after a few orbits. Assuming I play 4 tables constantly, what would be a decent amount of hands to play? Also what type of goal should I set my win rate to? What is a high yet realistic goal?

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chippy pretty much covered it but I suggest that you don't need to set a "hand amount". Play until you either start tilting, don't want to play, or feel you had a good session and are done.

Just play until you feel you aren't playing your A+ game anymore

LuckyChippy said:

FR or 6max, all I know is 6max, I play 6 tables and average about 500 hands in an hour. FR will get less hands per hour.

Don't try and set a winrate goal, just play your best, make the best decisions you can and the winrate and money will come with it.

A good winrate at 2nl is about 10bb/100, but something like 30bb is attainable if you're really good.

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I play mostly FR since I am usually a tighter player and FR gives me more time to acquire a decent hand

BR=Bankroll, how much money you have in your account to play poker with.

You add it by depositing

Party Player said:

what is br and how do i add this to my play?

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Br is referring to my bankroll.

The quickest way is to deposit onto whichever site you play on

20 buy-ins is a safe level before moving up, BUT, when it comes to 2nl to 5nl, I'd say get to $45 in your BR(20 buyins at 2nl, plus one at 5nl), and take a shot at 5nl. At 2nl theres way too many fish doing crazy calls, flush/straight chasing for you to play a normal game, and 5nl is slighter better for someone who knows how to play. As long as you dont go under $40, keep taking shots at 5nl.
GL

I will try that as soon as I hit $45 or 20BIs 2NL and 1+ BI 5NL

I do not think 10 dollars enough, unless you leave it in there and build your bankroll through freerolls. 100 is good if you want to play 5 doll. buy ins. You are too restricted with only 10 bucks and it's not really worth ur time I think.

engman said:

I do not think 10 dollars enough, unless you leave it in there and build your bankroll through freerolls. 100 is good if you want to play 5 doll. buy ins. You are too restricted with only 10 bucks and it's not really worth ur time I think.

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I don't agree with this.

I started with $16 (£10) and now have a four figure BR at $10NL. You can do it...

You can do it but you have to run very good at the start.Win flips,hit flushs etc. or you lose.

engman said:

I do not think 10 dollars enough, unless you leave it in there and build your bankroll through freerolls. 100 is good if you want to play 5 doll. buy ins. You are too restricted with only 10 bucks and it's not really worth ur time I think.

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It's awfully tough trying to make another $30 via freerolls alone (to get to 20 x $2), unless you have decent payout ones like the CC tournaments. It's also awfully tough to let it just sit there for months while you try to add to it.

Building a bankroll from nothing or almost nothing is possible. I've done it on one site with a freeroll winning of $2 taking it to somewhere over $200 before being forced to cash it out (the skin was shut down). I'd suggest short-stacking at first to give yourself more protection from the risk of ruin until you get ~ 10 full buyins.

I will try out short-stacking if Im ever allowed to play at FTP again.

pokerman27 said:

four figure BR at $10NL

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Nit much?

You mentioned "what to do when you have the urge to move up a level". Why not just work on adding on more tables?
fwiw, I think you'll be able to make a better go of this on Carbon... so get your buddy to misteak you on Carbon for a $10 spot. CC also has freerolls on there & I must say you've milked this thread for a good chunk of the required posts you'll need to play in it

Poker Orifice said:

CC also has freerolls on there & I must say you've milked this thread for a good chunk of the required posts you'll need to play in it

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LOL

Nothing wrong with playing ring and freerolls to add to that bankroll.