Originally Posted by IPlay
6max or full ring? I also wouldn't generalize the whole player pool because you got called down once by someone with 66 when you held AK.
Post some hands?
6-max. Well, I kind of have to generalize since it's all anonymous on Bovada. But in general, I've found that they're just really spewy in 3-bet pots. From what I've seen, they're calling way too many c-bets in 3-bet pots, especially IP. They think it's cool to try to outplay me with J high/K high/pairs on the turn or something lol. I once got called by J9o when I 3-bet 99 from the BB vs BTN. Got floated on 1010x board, turn J, he bets I call. Of course when it goes to showdown, that's the last hand I put him on.
That's why I've lowered my 3-betting % a bit in Zone, especially OOP. Being OOP really sucks when a decent amount of the Zone players are aggrotards, and you're sitting there with A high or an underpair to the board. A good amount of the time, they'll just keep firing, and I know they can't have it everytime. In cash games, they're a little more passive and straightforward, not by a significant amount, but it is much easier to play in 3-bet pots.
It's weird, you'd think that Zone players would just fold their marginal holdings to 3-bets since they can just move on the the next hand, but they don't. I've seen the blinds cold calling junk like K7s (cracks my AA on the flop of course), 36s, pps, A5o, Q9s, people overcalling KJo, etc ALL the time.
My 3-bets almost hardly get through; I'm guessing it succeeds around 20-30%. If anything, I'm not sure if it's just me, but cash game players seem to respect 3-bets a lot more and fold way more, even IP. Zone players have a much wider calling range, especially IP; I think a lot of them try to outplay you. I don't ever remember anybody bluffing
off their whole stack to me in a cash game on a stone cold bluff with very little to no equity, but it's happened many many times in Zone. It's so bad that I've almost halved my current 3-bet range in Zone. In cash games I still 3-bet a decent percentage: JJ/AQo+ from any position and some stuff like AJs, KQo, KQs, 1010 blind vs BTN.
I would post some hands, but I don't have HM2 or a tracking software . I loved the HM2 software, but it's pretty expensive, and I decided that I wouldn't buy it until after my bankroll was at $2000 and I'm a winning 50NL reg. I'm currently at $1400 after a $500 deposit and a 25NL reg. Hoping to move up soon; I've been running terribly however and am on my first biggest downswing (10.5 BI).