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I bluffed IP when there is a pair on board.I am just not sure if it is right. although It seems work well in microstake .
 
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You're right, paired boards are good to bluff at when checked to because it is less likely that your opponent has hit the flop. You will need to re-evaluate if they call you though as if they flopped trips they are likely to check it to you.

It is better to give more information with your questions like history with opponent, reads on them, stack sizes, what hand you hold, board texture etc. etc. With more info you will get better, more helpful answers. :)

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I find at the micros that any paired board without a face card on is terrible to bluff on. Although it is less likely that their hand has hit as if it was an unpaired hand, I also find that they are extremely stubborn with the fold button on such boards. They assume their pair of 3's is still good :p. If you have a high unpaired hand, I tend to just give up on those sorts of boards, they aren't usually even worth a cbet. And of course, if you have an overpair, you're betting for value and not a bluff.
 
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Paired board strengthens quite alot of hands. I wouldn't be going anywhere with TP or A high alot of the time.
 
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bluffing too much in the micros is generally not a good idea. Having said that, it can work from time-to-time, but it is pretty opponent-specific. Paired boards can be good to bluff, but also some players will just habitually not believe that you actually have anything and will call you anyway. They assume you would slow-play if you actually hit a paired flop.
 
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Thank you for your reply.Acually I hope you can give some example for different situation. That is what I am not sure. Basically the opponent is not aggressive and willing to fold. Therefore if the board is without a court card will that be a problem.

You're right, paired boards are good to bluff at when checked to because it is less likely that your opponent has hit the flop. You will need to re-evaluate if they call you though as if they flopped trips they are likely to check it to you.

It is better to give more information with your questions like history with opponent, reads on them, stack sizes, what hand you hold, board texture etc. etc. With more info you will get better, more helpful answers. :)

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Today I got A8 board 775, but I was OOP.I still cbet bluff. I am not sure if it is right.It is kind like a WA/WB situation. if the board is 77J will it be better or worse.
 
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AeJones Theorem: No one ever has anything.
 
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Today I got A8 board 775, but I was OOP.I still cbet bluff. I am not sure if it is right.It is kind like a WA/WB situation. if the board is 77J will it be better or worse.

Way ahead of what exactly? you have A high, you're not way ahead of anything.
 
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Are you playing a tournament? if not you should probably not even be playing A8o except for blind steal/occasional isolation imo.
 
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I just thought if he is not paired, I am WA. You are right Ace high is not enough. I probably should check here

Way ahead of what exactly? you have A high, you're not way ahead of anything.
 
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I'm going to generalize here but what the heck.

*Against bad players who aren't huge fish raising most paired boards is often a good bluff.
*Against good players who hand read make sure it's believable. If you flatted from UTG+1 no-one will believe you hold a 2 on that 722 flop. However on a KK2 flop your fully believable.
*Against huge fish (53/22 or so) I wouldn't bother raising with air. They're fish, they're there to be value towned. 722 flops may see AQ/A2/33/A7/JT or any old shite come along.
*Lastly this is best done with a little equity. Pure outs aren't needed but an overcard or two is better than small pps so we do have equity vs pairs.
 
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Great guidline. Thank you

I'm going to generalize here but what the heck.

*Against bad players who aren't huge fish raising most paired boards is often a good bluff.
*Against good players who hand read make sure it's believable. If you flatted from UTG+1 no-one will believe you hold a 2 on that 722 flop. However on a KK2 flop your fully believable.
*Against huge fish (53/22 or so) I wouldn't bother raising with air. They're fish, they're there to be value towned. 722 flops may see AQ/A2/33/A7/JT or any old shite come along.
*Lastly this is best done with a little equity. Pure outs aren't needed but an overcard or two is better than small pps so we do have equity vs pairs.
 
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