My Biggest Losers

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Hi Guys, just going over my last 10K hands, I have thought that I have been pretty unlucky, showing a slight win rate, but nothing to shout about.

I know I may have some more in depth leaks, but here are some of my biggest losses, I would just like if people could take a look and see if there is anything I could have done differently here.

Thanks in advance.

Hand 1


pokerstars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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UTG: 178.8 BB (VPIP: 21.57, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 105)
MP: 113.8 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 80 BB
Hero (BTN): 103 BB
SB: 13 BB (VPIP: 53.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BB: 161.4 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 8c 7c
fold, fold, CO checks, Hero calls 1 BB, SB raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop : (10 BB, 3 players) 8d 8h Kc
SB bets 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn : (16 BB, 3 players) Qc
SB bets 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

River : (25 BB, 3 players) 9c
SB checks, CO bets 72 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 72 BB, fold

CO shows Tc 3c (Flush, King High) (Pre 55%, Flop 3%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows 8c 7c (Flush, King High) (Pre 45%, Flop 97%, Turn 84%)
CO wins 162 BB

Hand 2


PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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UTG: 117.6 BB (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
MP: 66.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
CO: 92.8 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
BTN: 156.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ac Jd
fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 4 BB

Flop : (12 BB, 2 players) Th Js 7h
Hero bets 9 BB, CO raises to 22 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn : (56 BB, 2 players) 5d
Hero checks, CO bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

River : (96 BB, 2 players) 4h
Hero bets 46 BB, CO calls 45.8 BB and is all-in

Hero shows Ac Jd (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 59%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
CO shows 8h 9h (Flush, Ten High) (Pre 41%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
CO wins 179.8 BB

Hand 3


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Hero (CO): 112.4 BB
BTN: 95.4 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.63, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 198)
BB: 127 BB (VPIP: 65.12, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9c Kc
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop : (7.4 BB, 2 players) 9h 5s 6h
Hero bets 4 BB, BTN raises to 10.6 BB, Hero calls 6.6 BB

Turn : (28.6 BB, 2 players) Kd
Hero bets 19 BB, BTN raises to 42 BB, Hero calls 23 BB

River : (112.6 BB, 2 players) Jd
Hero bets 49 BB, BTN calls 39.8 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 9c Kc (Two Pair, Kings and Nines) (Pre 60%, Flop 70%, Turn 91%)
BTN shows Td Qh (Straight, King High) (Pre 40%, Flop 30%, Turn 9%)
BTN wins 184.2 BB


Hand 4


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CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 94.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
SB: 77.2 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 24)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 106.4 BB (VPIP: 9.45, PFR: 5.47, 3Bet Preflop: 2.60, Hands: 206)
MP: 97.4 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6d 6s
fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop : (4.4 BB, 2 players) 4d 6h 7s
Hero checks, CO bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, CO calls 7 BB

Turn : (24.4 BB, 2 players) 8d
Hero bets 17 BB, CO calls 17 BB

River : (58.4 BB, 2 players) Ts
Hero bets 42 BB, CO raises to 69 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 27 BB

CO shows 9h 8h (Straight, Ten High) (Pre 50%, Flop 28%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows 6d 6s (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 50%, Flop 72%, Turn 82%)
CO wins 188.2 BB


Hand 5


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BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.44, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 66)
SB: 190.8 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 99.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 12 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, MP posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has Qh Ac
Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, CO raises to 12 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, BB calls 11 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Flop : (37.4 BB, 3 players) 7c Qc Th
BB checks, Hero bets 22 BB, BB raises to 44 BB, Hero raises to 88 BB and is all-in, BB calls 43.4 BB and is all-in

Turn : (212.2 BB, 3 players) Jd

River : (212.2 BB, 3 players) 8c

BB shows Tc Ts (Three of a Kind, Tens)
Main Pot [37.4 BB]: (Pre 45%, Flop 79%, Turn 90%)
Side Pot [174.8 BB]: (Pre 57%, Flop 93%, Turn 91%)

Hero mucks Qh Ac (One Pair, Queens)
Main Pot [37.4 BB]: (Pre 33%, Flop 6%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot [174.8 BB]: (Pre 43%, Flop 7%, Turn 9%)

CO mucks Ah Js (One Pair, Jacks)
Main Pot [37.4 BB]: (Pre 22%, Flop 15%, Turn 5%)

BB wins 203.4 BB


Hand 6


PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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Hero (MP): 109.4 BB
CO: 96.6 BB (VPIP: 72.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 120 BB (VPIP: 20.97, PFR: 11.29, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 63)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.58, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 97)
UTG: 149.6 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ah Ks
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 6 BB, CO calls 6 BB

Flop : (28.4 BB, 3 players) 9d As 8s
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB, fold

Turn : (56.4 BB, 2 players) 7h
Hero bets 40 BB, BTN raises to 77 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 37 BB

River : (210.4 BB, 2 players) Ac

Hero shows Ah Ks (Three of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 45%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows 8h 8c (Full House, Eights full of Aces) (Pre 55%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins 201.6 BB


Hand 7


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CO: 114.6 BB (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 24.49, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 50)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: 174.6 BB (VPIP: 77.78, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 79 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (MP): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has As Ks
UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 7 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop : (24.4 BB, 3 players) Ah 5h 5c
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 17 BB, BB calls 17 BB, fold

Turn : (58.4 BB, 2 players) 7d
BB checks, Hero bets 42 BB, BB calls 42 BB

River : (142.4 BB, 2 players) Th
BB checks, Hero bets 33 BB and is all-in, BB calls 33 BB

Hero shows As Ks (Two Pair, Aces and Fives) (Pre 72%, Flop 67%, Turn 80%)
BB shows Kh 8h (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 28%, Flop 33%, Turn 20%)
BB wins 199.8 BB


Hand 8


PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
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SB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
BB: 115.4 BB (VPIP: 42.03, PFR: 27.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 71)
UTG: 200.8 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 55.6 BB (VPIP: 59.68, PFR: 19.35, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 65)
Hero (BTN): 107.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks Ac
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.2 BB, Hero raises to 22.4 BB, BB calls 13.2 BB

Flop : (45.2 BB, 2 players) 7d Qh 9d
BB checks, Hero bets 30 BB, BB calls 30 BB

Turn : (105.2 BB, 2 players) Kc
BB checks, Hero checks

River : (105.2 BB, 2 players) 5s
BB bets 63 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 54.8 BB and is all-in

BB shows Qd Qs (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 57%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows Ks Ac (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 43%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
BB wins 205.8 BB


Hand 9


PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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CO: 57.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BTN: 123 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 24)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (BB): 121.6 BB
UTG: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 24)
MP: 187.8 BB (VPIP: 45.83, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks 3d
fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero checks

Flop : (3.4 BB, 3 players) 3s Qs 4s
Hero checks, MP bets 1 BB, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, MP calls 2 BB

Turn : (12.4 BB, 3 players) Kd
Hero bets 9 BB, MP calls 9 BB, fold

River : (30.4 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero bets 22 BB, MP raises to 174.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 86.6 BB and is all-in

MP shows Qh Kc (Full House, Kings full of Queens) (Pre 74%, Flop 57%, Turn 75%)
Hero shows Ks 3d (Full House, Kings full of Threes) (Pre 26%, Flop 43%, Turn 25%)
MP wins 237.4 BB


Thanks a lot.
 
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Sorry I could only get through 3 or so of the hands. Basically you've listed some bad beat hands, or hands where you are most likely beat and yet you still called, and then you would like some comments?

Be more aggressive early with good hands. Be willing to throw a hand away when you are most likely drawing dead. There's tons of specific things in the hands that could be discussed but that's kind of what I would distill it down to. Don't be afraid to throw in marginal starting hands when you are obviously beat.

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What would you say is a bad beat? Because with several of the hands I have bet on the river when I'm way behind, the reason I posted them on here is because I'm not sure whether this is something I should stop doing, or whether in these particular hands my opponents are just showing up with the top end of their range.

Thanks for your input.
 
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I think a lot of those hands you need to learn to let go with top pair. Often reraised at 5nl on the flop isn't a bluff.

Also when you have a set raise more :)

Also don't fall in love with 2 pair.... maybe top 2 pair but even still if theres a lot of danger on the board.



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Also K3 this is why we drop the hand :)... esp if u have k3s or similar type hands, if u don't make the flush getting a pair or two pair can lose you money quite easy and even if u do hit the flush you'll sure as well win a lil or lose a lot to the nuts.



If u follow what I said at all. None of those hands are really bad beats. Even the boat isn't u shouldn't have been in that hand.
 
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These are not bad beat, but punishment to your wrong plays.

#1: If you open raise at the button, you can let T3s fold. If you raise on the flop, you can let T3s fold. If you do not call 3x pot bet, you can lose less... bad beat means you go allin with AA preflop and get beaten by T3s, but not this hand.

#2: As SPR is over 8, TPTK may usually not good enough on such flop against a flop raise. Just bet - fold the flop.

#3: This is a bad beat, but you are still calling too much. Why bet the river? Just check call.

#4: still not bad beat... It seems that you do not know how to analyze the board structure.

#5: Just cooler, not bad beat. Btw, you are playing TPTK too aggressive.

#6: 3bet AK on preflop. Donk it on the turn. Else... if you want to trap others with AK, why can't you be trapped by sets?

#7: I can hardly understand why you go allin with such a showdown hand?

#8: When you hit A/K, you are not willing to bet and build a big pot. But when you miss, you are so willing to waste your chips... Do you think your opponent will check call and go allin on the river with air?

#9: this is cooler... alright, you are extremely of bad luck!!! But just 1 hand out of 9 "bad beats"
 
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These are not bad beat, but punishment to your wrong plays.

#1: If you open raise at the button, you can let T3s fold. If you raise on the flop, you can let T3s fold. If you do not call 3x pot bet, you can lose less... bad beat means you go allin with AA preflop and get beaten by T3s, but not this hand.

#2: As SPR is over 8, TPTK may usually not good enough on such flop against a flop raise. Just bet - fold the flop.

#3: This is a bad beat, but you are still calling too much. Why bet the river? Just check call.

#4: still not bad beat... It seems that you do not know how to analyze the board structure.

#5: Just cooler, not bad beat. Btw, you are playing TPTK too aggressive.

#6: 3bet AK on preflop. Donk it on the turn. Else... if you want to trap others with AK, why can't you be trapped by sets?

#7: I can hardly understand why you go allin with such a showdown hand?


Thanks for your help.

#1. I know now that I played this terribly, don't know why I didn't raise preflop.

#2. Never taken SPR into account before, but thanks for bringing it to my attention. It's nice to have a good reason to lay down top pair (something I obviously have trouble with).

#3. I think i thought that he wasn't going to be folding at this point anyway, so just got the money in to avoid him checking behind.

#4. Still don't know what would have been best this hand. I bet the river to essentially make decisions easier for myself. Would a check call be best, or just fold to any decent sized bet?

#6. Should I be 4betting here then? Wasn't trying to trap, I think I just have a ridiculously tight!

#7. I purely got my stack in as he was 77/22 and thought he would stack off with less, this is over a tiny number of hands though. If somebody has those stats though would this not be a beneficial play?

#8. After he checked flop and turn, I thought top pair would be good, especially considering his high VPIP

A few things I can definitely work on though, thanks for going through them.
 
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#8: When you hit A/K, you are not willing to bet and build a big pot. But when you miss, you are so willing to waste your chips... Do you think your opponent will check call and go allin on the river with air?

#9: this is cooler... alright, you are extremely of bad luck!!! But just 1 hand out of 9 "bad beats"

AK is very opponent based with tptk.

You can win big pots with it. But select the right opponent to do it or your losing value.
 
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Thanks for your help.

#1. I know now that I played this terribly, don't know why I didn't raise preflop.

#2. Never taken SPR into account before, but thanks for bringing it to my attention. It's nice to have a good reason to lay down top pair (something I obviously have trouble with).

#3. I think i thought that he wasn't going to be folding at this point anyway, so just got the money in to avoid him checking behind.

#4. Still don't know what would have been best this hand. I bet the river to essentially make decisions easier for myself. Would a check call be best, or just fold to any decent sized bet?

#6. Should I be 4betting here then? Wasn't trying to trap, I think I just have a ridiculously tight!

#7. I purely got my stack in as he was 77/22 and thought he would stack off with less, this is over a tiny number of hands though. If somebody has those stats though would this not be a beneficial play?

#8. After he checked flop and turn, I thought top pair would be good, especially considering his high VPIP

A few things I can definitely work on though, thanks for going through them.

#3: I mean... You just bet too much. You may be drawing dead when facing 87, so why not just check call the turn and river? Furthermore, if you bet the turn, shove to reraise may be a better idea than call and shove the river.

#4: You may just check call the turn. By the way, if you play your hand in this style, why not check fold the river? Can you imagine one hand that can call the turn and bet the river weaker than a straight? Even if I have 44 behind, I will just fold to your river bet as any 5 or 9 can easily beat my hand.

#6: 4bet definitely. Do not call 3bet OOP as you only have 1/3 chance to hit the flop and hit-or-fold strategy may waste you too much money.

#7: Your play cannot be beneficial at all. As you are the first raiser, It is easy to put you on an A or big pocket pairs. So... if you are in your opponent's shoes, will you call with 77/22 for 2 streets and deeply believe that the raiser just have KQ? I don't think so.

#8: This guy is calling your 4bet!!! What kind of range do you think he will have? at least less than 7%, right? So if he check call the flop with a weak pocket pair or a Q, why do he shove the river as the K & Q on the board greatly match your 4bet range? Only QQ can do this!
 
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#3: I mean... You just bet too much. You may be drawing dead when facing 87, so why not just check call the turn and river? Furthermore, if you bet the turn, shove to reraise may be a better idea than call and shove the river.

#4: You may just check call the turn. By the way, if you play your hand in this style, why not check fold the river? Can you imagine one hand that can call the turn and bet the river weaker than a straight? Even if I have 44 behind, I will just fold to your river bet as any 5 or 9 can easily beat my hand.

#6: 4bet definitely. Do not call 3bet OOP as you only have 1/3 chance to hit the flop and hit-or-fold strategy may waste you too much money.

#7: Your play cannot be beneficial at all. As you are the first raiser, It is easy to put you on an A or big pocket pairs. So... if you are in your opponent's shoes, will you call with 77/22 for 2 streets and deeply believe that the raiser just have KQ? I don't think so.

#8: This guy is calling your 4bet!!! What kind of range do you think he will have? at least less than 7%, right? So if he check call the flop with a weak pocket pair or a Q, why do he shove the river as the K & Q on the board greatly match your 4bet range? Only QQ can do this!

Point taken with most of those, but I think that with #7, if you're holding TPTK against a VPIP of 77, who is showing no aggression in the hand, you should be betting every street for value? Even when the draw comes in on the river, a person who calls that much will surely stack off with less?
 
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1 - why limp in , raise to 3bb yourself and blinds probably fold.As played raise flop to 20BB, then you could virtually shove the turn with trips and flush draw.You have boat outs .

2- pre fine,cbet fine, fold to the flop raise board is semi connected, KQ has an open ender so that A gets you in trouble when it hits , 89 could already have a straight. you aren't going to improve often enought tyo get a good enough hand to beatthe hands he could have.

3 - pre fine , cbet fine , fold to the flop raise again, flush draws out their, 78 has a straight again 5,6 and 9 all hit set mining pairs that could call pre and now going for value when they hit their set.

4- pre fine , flop raise bigger , turn is horrible card for us , may cbet 1/3 pot at most and represent a 5 but shutting down if called or raised . if only called i check the river unless i boat up .

5 - i think i 4bet pre to 40BB to isolate the fishy shortie and price the other guy out for setmining. .Then its a flop shove if he calls with 60bb effective stacks and 100BB pot

6- i 4bet to 30bb pre ,again you probably fold out the 88 guy and take down the pot rather than losing the stack.cbet the flop 2/3 pot. hat e that yoiu checked the flop and then donked the turn when all of a sudden connectors are now making straights and two pairs. Prefer to have bet the flop and check folded the turn.

7- maybe just check behind on the river but i probably go for stacks as well

8- pre and flop fine , just shove the turn

9- looks ok to me
 
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Point taken with most of those, but I think that with #7, if you're holding TPTK against a VPIP of 77, who is showing no aggression in the hand, you should be betting every street for value? Even when the draw comes in on the river, a person who calls that much will surely stack off with less?

You just have a sample of 9 hands, not 9k hands, alright?

btw, playing loose preflop doesn't means he will still call you with weak hands on the flop. So your play is quite not reasonable
 
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You just have a sample of 9 hands, not 9k hands, alright?

btw, playing loose preflop doesn't means he will still call you with weak hands on the flop. So your play is quite not reasonable

Not defending my hand, I know I played it badly or it wouldn't be on here. If the hand sample was over a few hundred hands, I think someone playing that loose pre flop is more than likely to stack off with less than TPTK. Given that the amount of hands I have on him here is negligible, I know I shouldn't have been playing for stacks in this case.
 
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Not defending my hand, I know I played it badly or it wouldn't be on here. If the hand sample was over a few hundred hands, I think someone playing that loose pre flop is more than likely to stack off with less than TPTK. Given that the amount of hands I have on him here is negligible, I know I shouldn't have been playing for stacks in this case.

Don't be too defensive, we are just discussing about strategies. Actually, the right data you need to focus on is fold to cbet%, but not VPIP.
 
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Cheers Tom, thanks for taking the time to trawl through all the hands. Hopefully found a few areas I can improve in.
 
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