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This is a tournament I played in when I was 17 years old. It was 2500 dollars buy in, 100,000 guaranteed. It was real life casino tournament, and my father signed me up. Haha, you can guess where my love of poker must come from :p Anyway, this is one of the hands. So I'm around average in chips, at the time 10k chips. Can't remember what the blinds were, but I was fine. I'm not sure HOW bad I played it, I know I could have played it much better, but how would YOU guys play it. I've been playing like a ROCK the whole time. Manage to get to 10k chips from 1.5k starting chips with only one bluff the entire time. I have ace-10 in hand. I don't think I was in position to rainse, and I limped in with it. I had like 2 more callers, probably blinds. Now, mind you, these are VERY lose aggresive players here, mostly rich guys who are having fun. flop comes: ace-7-10, with two being clubs. I check, KNOWING they will probably bet on the flop just to take it down. I'm first to act. As happens, the guy bets 1k. I raise him to 4k total (almost half my chips). He looks at the cards on the flop for a sec, and just cool calls me, with about 5k left in chips. I'm thinking now, he must be either going for the straight or the flush, so i'll take him all in next card. Well, here comes the 6 of clubs. I'm horrified at this card. I checked, and he put me all in. I spent like a minute thinking about it, and folded. He turned over his cards to show ace-6, for 2 pairs, meaning I had him dominated the whole time. NOW, it's pretty obvious he played it horribly. He payed off half his stack to a weak semi bluff, with top pair horrible kicker. BUT, should I have called, knowing he is very lose about his hands? What do you guys think? I'm thinking I should have sent all in regardless of what came. It's a tournament, I could always chase the ace or 10 to double. Thanks.
 
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will your dad stake me for the main event pls?

but seriously just go all in over his 1k bet rather than raising to 4k and then having a mindboggling decision on the turn
 
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I agree. You want to put him in the position that he put you into. Had you come over the top all-in, he should consider you ahead of his pair with low kicker.
 
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Where were you able to play in a live casino tourney at the age of 17?
 
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Where were you able to play in a live casino tourney at the age of 17?

Not very often that you see a starting stack of 1,500 chips in a $2,500 buy-in, $100k guarantee event either. Remind me not to play there, when we find out which casino ... :D
 
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Nevadanick, I'm not 100% sure it was 1.5k, this ways quite a few years ago. Although, I am sure it was not over 3k (Im 100% sure my 10k stack at the time was well over double the initial stack). And on the 17 thing, my father has great relations with the casino manager. He presigned me up, I just had to show up and sit down :p
 
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cool story.
I wuddnt of folded to his shove, as why the hell wud he shove with a flush. wuddnt u try bet the pot or half pot to make some money? shovin would scare him away. so by shovin he was semi-bluffing. by semi-bluffin u had top 2 pair plus outs to make a boat. Easy call aswell since u say these guy are loose and playin for fun. Just IMO....
 
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How did the other guy play before?
And remember: you just limped in....
And the 4k bet just comitted you. So go all in and he will fold or call his all in if you bet no matter what card appears.
 
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Well, when he went all in, that was about half the pot. Pot was around 8k, he put me all in for what, like 5k more of my chips. if I hit the flush, I'd probably have put it all in (granted if it was a small flush). And yea, the guy was rather loose. But if he had something like two pairs, I thought he would go all in. If he had anything other than a draw, to such a big bet, he should fold, or raise me all in, since the board was full of draws (straights and flushes). The fact that he just called me, with half his stack, made me think he was chasing and willing to see 1 last card. And then the card that made the flush or straight appear, I guess I just got really scared. Plus, was my first big tournament, at age 17, I did not wanna get knocked out haha. It was very close to the bubble too, top 20 got payed (I think 20th place got their buy in back), and my father lets me keep any winnings I made. So yea, let emotions get the best of me. Today, I know i'd call it in a heartbeat.
 
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i don't care what he had......if he had your stack covered you should've raised all in at the flop.....he's got you covered so you make him pay to beat you....you know hes calling if he got an A.....easy double up if you ask me!
 
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if I hit the flush, I'd probably have put it all in (granted if it was a small flush).
So yea, let emotions get the best of me. Today, I know i'd call it in a heartbeat.

Was about to answer ukaliks, you saved me the trouble. Funny, he was representing how anyone might play a low flush, like 78 suited - or perhaps even a made straight, with an all-in to deter you from drawing a 4th club or better straight on the river. But all the while, he probably thought his A6 was the best hand, not really a semi-bluff. What a shame.

When you checked after the turn, it might have look like your failed check-raise after the flop didn't turn out so well. Hindsight is 20/20. It's always the ones you fold that eat away at you. It helps me to try to remember the ones I smartly did fold. :D
 
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Vanquish got it right, first response. You hit top 2 pair, and tried to get sneaky. You paid the price. Villain put the big onus on you, and you wilted like a 3 day old flower.

You have to remember that villains don't want to bust out any more than you do, and you punked out on the flop thinking he had what? AA , TT, 77, a draw?

Don't give a draw the chance to catch, and make chasers pay dearly.

Take a little "Kill, Crush, Destroy, Rape Pillage and Plunder' attitude with you next time.:mad:
 
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I punked out thinking he had a flush or straight draw. when the perfect card came about, which could either give him the straight, or could give him the flush, well, he just killed me when he went all in. And his all in was not an overbet. It was just a bit over half the pot. Remember, I had half my stack in the pot on the flop. I raised 4k thinking "hm.... this should scare off any draw, but if he calls, he'll pay dearly". I was hoping him to take me all in (which was my assumption if he had aces), but he just called, so that, in my mind, sorta confirmed that he was on a draw. When the perfect draw card hit, my brain was already beat. Him going all in just sorta confirmed to me that he hit his draw, and I was drawing to 4 outs. It killed me, and I folded, thinking i'd save the 5k for another hand. And slowly, I lost that money bit by bit, and was out on a flop where we both flopped 2 pairs, his 2 pairs better than mine. But it was a learning experience. I think I gave the guy way too much credit, and should have gone all in on the flop, he'd have paid me off, and i'd have won.
 
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I think this hand is worrying you too much. Forget it. I mean with already half your chips in the pot, a 2 pair, and playing with a really aggresive player, I would have called. But do not sweat it.
 
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Thats tough. I would have folded the after the turn after the six but, I would have been AI from the flop. How did you finish in the tourni?
 
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Yea... was a very tough one for me. I did not place in the tourny. I was a few spots out of the bubble. I was low in chips, blinds started eating me away. I had 2 small cards and got in free on BB, hit 2 pairs on the flop. I bet, someone took me all in for a few chips more, I called. He had bigger two pairs on the flop. Oh well.
 
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