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There maybe a thread for this, but I have not found it, so here goes. I know that to play a proper game you should only bet a certain amount of your stack and position is a factor. At certain sites I have found that if you think you have the best hand after the flop (depending on what it is) that you need to bet higher due to the fact that 75% of the time it seems that somebody is going to hit a flush or straight. This is based on low limit buy ins and freerolls. Does anyone else get that feeling about certain sites?
 
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No I dont get that feeling about other sites. I bet if I raised and depending on the flop and its content I adjust my bet accordingly. You dont want them drawing out on you so make them pay.
 
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Im geting kind sick of these thread so im just gonna scramble some phrases and u can put them together your self:
Online isnt rigged,suckouts happen,selective thinking,poker is long term,no such thing as doomswitch,why rig a freeroll?,suckout´s happen live to,if your 60% to win your 40% to lose.
 
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Im geting kind sick of these thread so im just gonna scramble some phrases and u can put them together your self:
Online isnt rigged,suckouts happen,selective thinking,poker is long term,no such thing as doomswitch,why rig a freeroll?,suckout´s happen live to,if your 60% to win your 40% to lose.


Incorrect sir, Jagsti had one and he passed it off to me!...Doomswitches are real.
 
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Hi Finikee, I'm not a good player, but I think the problem is, early stages of low limit and freeroll tourneys. Bad players still alive. I don't believe the sites have anything to do with the problem. You are going to get called no matter what you bet, to a degree. The worst senario is a bad "lucky" player with lots of chips. They won't lay a hand down, and draw out on everyone when they're rushing. In those early stages, I make a good bet on the flop, when they have their best odds, but not as good as yours. The bet size varies, but not too big, they're gonna call anyway. Slow down later if a scare card comes, but if it doesn't, bet accordingly. On the turn, when their flush card doesn't come, bet half the pot, more if there's more players in it. The chance of drawing that flush is less than 25%, so make them pay, like blueduece says. When they put in their bet, it should be more than 25% of the pot and you should be ahead in the long run. Hopefully, position is to your advantage. Often, I'll check the river if that scare card comes since he's not going to call unless he made his hand.
Some of the variables to this stratagy are if it's a str8 or flush draw, str8's are much harder to draw so you bet less and are still making the odds to much for them to call and still be a correct call. Position. Number of people you can get out with your bet on the flop. Your reads of the remaining players. If you improve on the turn or river. Stack sizes of you and your opponents. How far the tourney had progressed, (how many donks are left). You can't make a move on a dummy. They don't keep track of odds.
If there are still too many players left in the hand after the flop, your 2 pair or set could be in trouble if it doesn't improve. That's just a fact of poker. What you really need with all those donks in the hand is for the board to pair to make you a full house, or even 4 kind! Then when that flush card hits you can break a player or 2.
This is a bad example, but if there's 4 other players in the pot with you after the flop, and each of those players has a 15% chance of winning the pot, you have 40% chance. You have those players dominated with the best hand, but will still lose most of the time, 60% to your 40%, because they won't lay their hand down, lol.
No, I haven't found the suckouts on any particular site. I've found it on ALL of them. Just my 2 cents.

Good Luck,
Tom
 
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Im geting kind sick of these thread so im just gonna scramble some phrases and u can put them together your self:
Online isnt rigged,suckouts happen,selective thinking,poker is long term,no such thing as doomswitch,why rig a freeroll?,suckout´s happen live to,if your 60% to win your 40% to lose.

I'm in agreement with this 110%. Anyone who believes that a flush (or any other ridiculous draw) is any more likely to come at their website, than in real life, should have their head examined and then wrapped in tinfoil for continuing to play in any game they suspect is rigged against them.
 
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Hi Finikee, I'm not a good player, but I think the problem is, early stages of low limit and freeroll tourneys. Bad players still alive. I don't believe the sites have anything to do with the problem. You are going to get called no matter what you bet, to a degree. The worst senario is a bad "lucky" player with lots of chips. They won't lay a hand down, and draw out on everyone when they're rushing. In those early stages, I make a good bet on the flop, when they have their best odds, but not as good as yours. The bet size varies, but not too big, they're gonna call anyway. Slow down later if a scare card comes, but if it doesn't, bet accordingly. On the turn, when their flush card doesn't come, bet half the pot, more if there's more players in it. The chance of drawing that flush is less than 25%, so make them pay, like blueduece says. When they put in their bet, it should be more than 25% of the pot and you should be ahead in the long run. Hopefully, position is to your advantage. Often, I'll check the river if that scare card comes since he's not going to call unless he made his hand.
Some of the variables to this stratagy are if it's a str8 or flush draw, str8's are much harder to draw so you bet less and are still making the odds to much for them to call and still be a correct call. Position. Number of people you can get out with your bet on the flop. Your reads of the remaining players. If you improve on the turn or river. Stack sizes of you and your opponents. How far the tourney had progressed, (how many donks are left). You can't make a move on a dummy. They don't keep track of odds.
If there are still too many players left in the hand after the flop, your 2 pair or set could be in trouble if it doesn't improve. That's just a fact of poker. What you really need with all those donks in the hand is for the board to pair to make you a full house, or even 4 kind! Then when that flush card hits you can break a player or 2.
This is a bad example, but if there's 4 other players in the pot with you after the flop, and each of those players has a 15% chance of winning the pot, you have 40% chance. You have those players dominated with the best hand, but will still lose most of the time, 60% to your 40%, because they won't lay their hand down, lol.
No, I haven't found the suckouts on any particular site. I've found it on ALL of them. Just my 2 cents.

Good Luck,
Tom
Thanks Tom, good info. I guess I phrased my question wrong or maybe Im nuts. But do you find certain sites to flop more flushes and straights than others. I see it every day. Maybe because I belong to a few. Thanks for your response and have gl at the tables:)
 
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