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tonymac32

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i knwo what pot odds are.. and i knwo the odds on catching a hand.. but i was listening to one of the pros that briefly mentioned something... and asked this guy if there was a 1000 chip pot and he bets 600... mathematically that is suppose to mean something in relation to % of times that hes should be able to take down taht pot.. and he will be profitable....n e one know more about this or what she was talking about
 
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Based on your description is sounds like the "pro" was simply explaining how pots odds relate to catching you hand. In that 1000 chip pot your opponent bets 600 chips. You must call 600 chips to win a pot that is now 1600 chips. Your pot odds are 2.66 to 1. So in simplest terms, if the likelihood of hitting your hand and winning is better than 2.66 to 1, then you would call because you'll win enough times in that exact situation to make it profitable in the long run. Obv there is a bit more complexity that will play into it, but that's the general concept you were asking about.
 
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I think the pro maybe talking about a continuation bet, for the size of the bet.
A continuation bet is a bluff that you could use if you were the agresor preflop and only one person called. Then before the flop he checked to you and even if you don't hit nothing on the flop you can make a bet around half the pot in an atempt to take it.

This situation is profitable because if you're only against one opponent the chances that the flop hit is hand are about 33%. So you're investing for example $500 to win $100 in a situation that you're opponent may fold about %66 of the time.
 
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I think the pro maybe talking about a continuation bet, for the size of the bet.
A continuation bet is a bluff that you could use if you were the agresor preflop and only one person called. Then before the flop he checked to you and even if you don't hit nothing on the flop you can make a bet around half the pot in an atempt to take it.

This situation is profitable because if you're only against one opponent the chances that the flop hit is hand are about 33%. So you're investing for example $500 to win $100 in a situation that you're opponent may fold about %66 of the time.

I think this although it applies to all bluffs not just cbets. Say you're on the button with trash and raise to 3x to steal the blinds. You're risking 3 to win 1.5 and thus must win 2/3 of the time to break-even (ignoring meta-game and the fact that if you raise trash from the button you'll get more from your big hands and the fact that you could hit a hand or win the pot on a later street).

Basically this relates to Fold equity in a bigger sense. Especially when you have a strong draw, when you bet you will take down the pot right there to give you some equity in the pot and when called you'll have some % to win. I won't go in to calculations but that's the basics of it.
 
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I think this although it applies to all bluffs not just cbets. Say you're on the button with trash and raise to 3x to steal the blinds. You're risking 3 to win 1.5 and thus must win 2/3 of the time to break-even (ignoring meta-game and the fact that if you raise trash from the button you'll get more from your big hands and the fact that you could hit a hand or win the pot on a later street).

Basically this relates to Fold Equity in a bigger sense. Especially when you have a strong draw, when you bet you will take down the pot right there to give you some equity in the pot and when called you'll have some % to win. I won't go in to calculations but that's the basics of it.


I agree, this logic not only applies for continuation bets. Well said.
 
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