Best time of day to play first live cash game?

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When would you recommend having a shot at my first live session? Cash games start at 4pm Mon-Thurs, then run 24 hours Friday-Sunday. Im at university so am able to play pretty much anytime (lol). My thinking is I should turn up late on a Friday or Saturday night?

Anyone with experience playing live or is a regular for live play have any advice? When do you usually play?
 
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Yeah, what Jilly said.

In live cash games, I compare "Drunk" to "Donk", so while the opportunity is there to cash in big, the opposite may be true too if someone "celebrating" gets on a roll.
 
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Jilly that thread is brilliant. Thanks.

Just a few things to ask. I play 6-max online so im used to lots of action, so playing 9-10 handed live will obviously mean ill really have to adjust, and ill see a lot fewer hands during the session. Im kinda nervous about how it will affect my play, but im confident I can keep disciplined and tight.

Is 6 hours definitely the absolute minimum I should be there for given how few hands ill see compared to online, or could I play for less time? Also, should I play a few thousand of hands of full-ring online before playing live, or is there not much point as live is so much different?

About cashing out, what if end up playing well, running well and my stack starts to get pretty deep after a few hours. How many big blinds would recommend walking away with for a first session?
 
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In live ring games, day time games will be full of players considered regs, who fancy themselves as at least semi-pro type players. Night time will be full of recreational players (recs).

So regs will be playing, in general, folks they know during the day time. Recs will be playing for entertainment in the evenings. The recs came to the live game looking to be entertained, and will be more willing to pay for that entertainment (via losing). The regs who play at night see that opportunity and are not shy about getting it in against the recs, whereas during the day time regs vs regs games they will probably play a bit tighter.

I will venture a guess that during the day, 80% of the players are regs, and play together very often. Recs at night probably make up 60% of the players but may see enough familiar faces to keep them happy. Those are pure guesses based on my experiences in SoCal (L.A. area) casinos.

I would go as far as to translate those numbers to online with this one huge exception..... you will be playing against players in every time zone in the world at Stars or Full Tilt. For the US primary sites, Merge, Bovada, WPN, etcetera, those 'guesses' would probably hold.
 
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JC.. that thread is fantastic... Thanks....
 
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Is 6 hours definitely the absolute minimum I should be there for given how few hands ill see compared to online, or could I play for less time? Also, should I play a few thousand of hands of full-ring online before playing live, or is there not much point as live is so much different?

About cashing out, what if end up playing well, running well and my stack starts to get pretty deep after a few hours. How many big blinds would recommend walking away with for a first session?

I think you'll be surprised at how fast 6 hours goes and how few hands you get to play in say 3 hours. Playing some full ring on-line isn't a bad idea but doesn't translate well to how loose passive must live games are.

As for cashing out, whatever makes you comfortable. If your stack size starts to make you anxious and you start to worry about 'losing it all' then definitely book the win and make your plans to come back again.
 
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Funny, I also just started playing my first live games a little less than two weeks ago and was googling around for opinions regarding this same question (I'm also a university student too so pretty much same situation as you). I've actually had pretty good success so far, and managed to turn an initial $80 investment into $500 with a few sessions a week. I live in Tampa so I have a pretty good selection of card rooms plus the Hard Rock casino, none of which are more than 30 mins away from me so I've been able to play at a few different types of venues. That being said, my initial impression is that the type of players you will face are definitely dependent on the time and day, but also dependent on the venue. For example, the casino attracts a wide range of players, many of whom are on vacation (especially right now) and just want to gamble, but also has a large amount of regulars. On the other hand, the greyhound track near me, while being a shithole in a TERRIBLE neighborhood, seems to be a gold mine full of terrible players any day of the week. They ALL are just there to gamble. I was able to make over $250 there in an hour on a wednesday at 3pm, and I'm not even that good.

Anyway, my point is that I think it's hard to estimate exactly what kind of crowd you'll be facing, so my advice would be to just go out and test the waters. As a general rule of thumb I think weekend evenings and nights tend to have a larger and more diverse sampling of players with lots of recs, while weekdays tend to have lower attendance and more regulars. Remember though, that even if you happen to find yourself at a table full of mostly regs, being patient and isolating the two ATMs at the table can still make for a very profitable session.

For your first cash game, my advice would be to go in with the initial intention of just gathering information and getting comfortable with all the intricate little side tasks that live play involves, such as keeping track of peoples stacks, estimating pot size, bets, observing how other players react, etc. (it can be a lot to take in at first if you are used to exclusively online play!).

As a final positive note, if you are a winning player online, expect to be pleasantly surprised at how comparably soft the 1/2 games are, since 1/2 is usually the lowest available stakes for live play.

TL;DR Weekends after 2-3pm = usually good. Go a few different days and times to get a better idea. Focus on getting comfortable with live play first, then focus on everything else second. Just my two cents as a fellow live play transitioner.

EDIT: I forgot to say, I would actually not recommend buying in for the table max for your first game. Maybe around 40-60 BB. I'm sure some people may disagree with me, but my rational here is that your goal in the initial few hours of your first cash game isn't so much to maximize your profits at the table but to gather intel, get acclimated to live play, and minimize losses. However, after you are confident and comfortable, consider buying in for 80-100+ BB so that you can maximize profits.

Good luck!
 
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I think that any time for a game it is good and there is a hope on a chance to win.I would play at any time if I am not busy.
 
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Poker is all about aiming for the weak players.

Aim for the recs.

1. You'll feel nervous if it's your first time. (What best way to see how bad ppl around you play t o feel good about your surroundings quicker)

2. If you hit the regs table the opposite will occur and they'll push you around when they sense your nervous or unsure.


When you go long enough you learn which regs are passive which are tags etc. But you don't have that luxury yet.
 
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stroll in at 2 AM on Saturday morning dressed like a tourist and make sure you know how to select the appropriate table
 
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My casino you can't select the table... It selects u. You can transfer though.
 
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yea i agree . playing in the morning around 2am on the weekend is the easiest money there during the week. for your first live cash game i suggest only playing like 50 hands or only play for an hr. leave and analyze your hands you played which should be only around 10. If you just try to have a long session your first time after being used to multi tabling you might get to frustrated. 100 hands usually takes me about 2 hr 45 min in a live full ring cash game
 
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I was at the casino last night around 3am, didn't play because I knew I was drunk. All tables were pretty much full to my surprise, and after a quick scan of the tables it was obvious to see like 2 regs at each table just taking everyones money, it was so blatant to see for anyone slightly sober.

Is this what happens often, with weekend players/ drunk people just playing for fun, and regs can just easily target them? Its given me confidence about playing live for the first time.
 
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