Beanfacekilla
Legend
Silver Level
Hey all!
I haven't really posted much recently, so I thought I'd make another thread.
I play poker 5 days a week. I play 1/2 and 2/5, more 2/5 lately. I've had lots of practice, feel I play pretty well these days. I'm fortunate enough to be part of a helluva network of players. We all talk hands, strategy, etc.
So lately, I've been running bad intermittently, today really bad. I have built up some thick skin to this, but it's tough.... Here a few hands to ponder today.... I'm not posting them to gripe, just for line check, am I running bad, you know.....
Anyways, hand 1, from memory... Saturday night, Detroit MI:
So, we get Qd-Qx, we are OTB. 2/5 live game, 10 handed. We are probably $500 deep.
2 limpers, we raise it up to $30, SB and EP limper call. We have an active, aggressive image.
Flop 10d-7d-4s. ($90-$95 after rake)
Checks to us, we bet $65, only SB calls (we cover, he has $190 back after calling flop). SB is a player I have a fair amount of hours with. He is a station. He thinks people bluff more than they do, and he hero calls a lot. He is the one who is always frowning and saying "nice hand", and mucking sometimes showing one card for top or 2nd pair. Anyway....
Turn 3c ($225ish)
Dude checks dark.
Now, at this point, I do consider immediately 5-6 as a possibility. However, I feel this guys range is much much wider than the one hand we are totally effed against. I have gotten many calls from him in the past, in similar spots, with top or 2nd pair hands, draws, etc.
I can't see clearly at this point how many chips he has. They are in goofy non standard stacks.
I bet $150, he has $190 and he is all in, we call extra $40.
River 2h. He has 5-6o. We lose. Line check? Should I pot control? This is pretty standard I thought..... It's whatever....
Hand 2: Later in session.
We are about $650-700 deep. We have 9-9, in MP. Table is like animal planet. Loose, whatever.
1 or 2 limpers, there is a whale in the BB. Aggro, volatile spew station. Ego. You know the type....
We raise to $40. Dude in BB only caller. We HU to flop 6-6-2r.
Now, I have been raising, and c betting a fair amount. Last hand we had A-J on JJ9 two clubs, we c bet, he c/R half his stack and folded to our shove (maybe I shouldn't have shoved, it's meh), so anyways, this dude is really trying to gun for us. He has shown proof he is a blaster bluffing away (first inkling was the A-J we had on Jc-9c-Jx, cause i thought if he is C/R he would call shove after he puts in half his stack, and we saw more nonsense from him while waiting to play another hand). I digress.
So, flop 6-6-2r ($85ish). He checks. We bet $60 (we cover). He C/R jams for $475.
I think, cliff notes are "this dude never has 6x, and jams here, he has air and 2x loads, gutters, and ace highs", also thinking "this dude thinks I'm just auto c-betting air here, and he is risking 475 to make me fold", we tank maybe 10-15 seconds. I feel deeply inside I have this guy destroyed, so we call the extra $415.
He visibly squirms, even muttering something illustrating his surprise/unhappiness with being called.
Turn As, river 10s.
Dude rolls over A-3o. Ouch. We do roll our hand as well for some reason. I was kinda shocked how good my read was, huge dog, and just table my hand.
Then, this dude thunder claps about 5 times. He gets up, circles while thunder clapping, then sits back down.
He says something pretty much like (can't recall exact words), "I'm coming for you man! You better get more money, cause I'm gonna take all of it!"
I laugh, and pull out 4 black, and just say "right here bro".
"I am coming for you now man!" "I'm gonna get all those chips too!"
I just LOL again, and tell him "keep doing what you're doin man, it's working!"
I didn't berate him, or tell him what I thought. I was flabbergasted by his outburst and beating his chest and declaring war, after he 3 outers me and get in 100 BB really bad. Ha ha ha, what can you do but laugh? I didn't tilt. I didn't defend blind against his loose opens with rags to get him back. I played poker. If I got a hand to go to war with, fine, but I ain't trying to crack this dude or anything....
Today was tough, as we couldn't make hands, the table was wild wild wild, even after that guy left. There was another guy who sat down and was way crazier than him. So we had to play alot tighter, and just wait for a hand to jam right down the new dudes throat.... but that hand never came. The new blaster went broke after 2 hours, and he left.
We would open good hands occasionally after, but miss flop/give up. Eventually, I did get frustrated. I was stuck $1200, and didn't bring enough with me today. I didn't want to play $300 deep and no re buy, so I left. I usually never get in a game more than $1500. That's about what I had to work with today.
I'm taking the next 2 or 3 days off, gonna play some 1/2 for a little while, and go back to 2/5 again.
I do very well at1/2. 2/5 honestly I have endured some sick beats, in big pots man. I know I've spewed some, but I'm pretty good at not leaking chips (no one is perfect) but I can think right off the top of my head of at least 5 or 6k in suckouts, like nasty nasty ones. This is probably over 400 hours, we way way below ev.
So I keep going back to 1/2, running it over, getting confidence and all that back again, go to 2/5, and I'm kinda having trouble there. I think I am doing the correct things, but like I said, many hands aren't holding.
I think a solid sample live is probably 1000 hours+, and I'm probably around 400 hours. I honestly don't know my hourly rate at 2/5 but it's probably lower than 1/2. I track it, but I don't want to look at it right now. I don't really care until I have a bigger sample. And plus, like I said, getting rivered alot when money is already all in there..... I'm certain I can improve, there's always room to improve, but there is some def run bad in that 400 hours.... anyways.
Any thoughts on any of this post are welcome!
I'm gonna try to post some interesting tidbits, hands, etc from live poker often. I'm gonna try to keep getting better, and I'm hoping you guys can help me learn more....
I haven't really posted much recently, so I thought I'd make another thread.
I play poker 5 days a week. I play 1/2 and 2/5, more 2/5 lately. I've had lots of practice, feel I play pretty well these days. I'm fortunate enough to be part of a helluva network of players. We all talk hands, strategy, etc.
So lately, I've been running bad intermittently, today really bad. I have built up some thick skin to this, but it's tough.... Here a few hands to ponder today.... I'm not posting them to gripe, just for line check, am I running bad, you know.....
Anyways, hand 1, from memory... Saturday night, Detroit MI:
So, we get Qd-Qx, we are OTB. 2/5 live game, 10 handed. We are probably $500 deep.
2 limpers, we raise it up to $30, SB and EP limper call. We have an active, aggressive image.
Flop 10d-7d-4s. ($90-$95 after rake)
Checks to us, we bet $65, only SB calls (we cover, he has $190 back after calling flop). SB is a player I have a fair amount of hours with. He is a station. He thinks people bluff more than they do, and he hero calls a lot. He is the one who is always frowning and saying "nice hand", and mucking sometimes showing one card for top or 2nd pair. Anyway....
Turn 3c ($225ish)
Dude checks dark.
Now, at this point, I do consider immediately 5-6 as a possibility. However, I feel this guys range is much much wider than the one hand we are totally effed against. I have gotten many calls from him in the past, in similar spots, with top or 2nd pair hands, draws, etc.
I can't see clearly at this point how many chips he has. They are in goofy non standard stacks.
I bet $150, he has $190 and he is all in, we call extra $40.
River 2h. He has 5-6o. We lose. Line check? Should I pot control? This is pretty standard I thought..... It's whatever....
Hand 2: Later in session.
We are about $650-700 deep. We have 9-9, in MP. Table is like animal planet. Loose, whatever.
1 or 2 limpers, there is a whale in the BB. Aggro, volatile spew station. Ego. You know the type....
We raise to $40. Dude in BB only caller. We HU to flop 6-6-2r.
Now, I have been raising, and c betting a fair amount. Last hand we had A-J on JJ9 two clubs, we c bet, he c/R half his stack and folded to our shove (maybe I shouldn't have shoved, it's meh), so anyways, this dude is really trying to gun for us. He has shown proof he is a blaster bluffing away (first inkling was the A-J we had on Jc-9c-Jx, cause i thought if he is C/R he would call shove after he puts in half his stack, and we saw more nonsense from him while waiting to play another hand). I digress.
So, flop 6-6-2r ($85ish). He checks. We bet $60 (we cover). He C/R jams for $475.
I think, cliff notes are "this dude never has 6x, and jams here, he has air and 2x loads, gutters, and ace highs", also thinking "this dude thinks I'm just auto c-betting air here, and he is risking 475 to make me fold", we tank maybe 10-15 seconds. I feel deeply inside I have this guy destroyed, so we call the extra $415.
He visibly squirms, even muttering something illustrating his surprise/unhappiness with being called.
Turn As, river 10s.
Dude rolls over A-3o. Ouch. We do roll our hand as well for some reason. I was kinda shocked how good my read was, huge dog, and just table my hand.
Then, this dude thunder claps about 5 times. He gets up, circles while thunder clapping, then sits back down.
He says something pretty much like (can't recall exact words), "I'm coming for you man! You better get more money, cause I'm gonna take all of it!"
I laugh, and pull out 4 black, and just say "right here bro".
"I am coming for you now man!" "I'm gonna get all those chips too!"
I just LOL again, and tell him "keep doing what you're doin man, it's working!"
I didn't berate him, or tell him what I thought. I was flabbergasted by his outburst and beating his chest and declaring war, after he 3 outers me and get in 100 BB really bad. Ha ha ha, what can you do but laugh? I didn't tilt. I didn't defend blind against his loose opens with rags to get him back. I played poker. If I got a hand to go to war with, fine, but I ain't trying to crack this dude or anything....
Today was tough, as we couldn't make hands, the table was wild wild wild, even after that guy left. There was another guy who sat down and was way crazier than him. So we had to play alot tighter, and just wait for a hand to jam right down the new dudes throat.... but that hand never came. The new blaster went broke after 2 hours, and he left.
We would open good hands occasionally after, but miss flop/give up. Eventually, I did get frustrated. I was stuck $1200, and didn't bring enough with me today. I didn't want to play $300 deep and no re buy, so I left. I usually never get in a game more than $1500. That's about what I had to work with today.
I'm taking the next 2 or 3 days off, gonna play some 1/2 for a little while, and go back to 2/5 again.
I do very well at1/2. 2/5 honestly I have endured some sick beats, in big pots man. I know I've spewed some, but I'm pretty good at not leaking chips (no one is perfect) but I can think right off the top of my head of at least 5 or 6k in suckouts, like nasty nasty ones. This is probably over 400 hours, we way way below ev.
So I keep going back to 1/2, running it over, getting confidence and all that back again, go to 2/5, and I'm kinda having trouble there. I think I am doing the correct things, but like I said, many hands aren't holding.
I think a solid sample live is probably 1000 hours+, and I'm probably around 400 hours. I honestly don't know my hourly rate at 2/5 but it's probably lower than 1/2. I track it, but I don't want to look at it right now. I don't really care until I have a bigger sample. And plus, like I said, getting rivered alot when money is already all in there..... I'm certain I can improve, there's always room to improve, but there is some def run bad in that 400 hours.... anyways.
Any thoughts on any of this post are welcome!
I'm gonna try to post some interesting tidbits, hands, etc from live poker often. I'm gonna try to keep getting better, and I'm hoping you guys can help me learn more....