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I've been having a really bad downswing the last 3 days. The first day I lost 50$ and called it a day. I made 1 mistake that I changed, and the second day I lost 200 due to calling raises with AQ and KQ only to fold when the flop would hit 2 2 3 and somebody would have the 2. Today I lost 100 to a 5$ straddle on the button. Him being on my right side I called 5$ with JJ knowing he'd raise to protect his straddle. He raises to 15 and I call. The flop comes 9 10 2. He goes all in and I call to only get busted by aces. I started with a small bankroll and have lost it all. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
 
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I'm not sure if I should quit poker or maybe build my bankroll up a bit more. I can't tell if I'm a bad poker player or I've just gotten unlucky these past few days. I started 1/2 no limit with 50$ built it up to 400 and now I'm down 600
 
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Sounds like There is some serious leaks in your play. Cant call that variance le downswing... you shouldnt probably just study a shit ton and then study again
 
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I raise premium hands, call blinds with playable hands ( suited connectors, j10, q10) and I use my position. I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong.
 
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You are not the only one lately has not been able to win anything with any hand that berry for stronger that result in the flop ended up losing it in turn or rive, game against
 
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I know for a fact if I played 1000 hands that I'd end up making more money then I started with but that's assuming I have a huge bankroll. I make the right moves and when I have a good hand I value bet correctly but I guess I played scared due to a small bankroll
 
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Sounds like the game you are playing is very much, ATC, along with some bad luck of big hands clashing... Stay patient at the table and in life, it will come around if you get your money in good.
 
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Ηey..can you say what was your bankroll and which cash stakes u played with it?because i felt that you used very agressive bankroll management,and you played at stakes that you shouldnt..:)
 
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500$ and 1/2 no limit. The lowest stakes in live poker at my casino
 
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Even i am not cash player,i think you need at least 20 buy in bankrolls each stake..so if you play 1/2 no limit..you needed at least 4.000$ to play..thats why i told you that you used very agressive bankroll management,even i understand that its the lowest stakes of your casino..
 
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Probably you need some break.
With those 50$ you have to play the smallest blinds tables. MTT probably will help you multiply them.
With that low bankroll is bad to play in high blinds. Just stick on the cents and the patience.
 
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Try playing online. It's different, but they have stakes as low as 1 2 cents. I've lost so many buyins to crap like this it's insane. But with 150 dollars and 2 dollar buy ins it's alright. Multi tabling helps. Also, if you get something that tracks your hand stats like leakbusters and holdem indicator 2 "not one" it allows you to review your game.
 
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I currently don't have a laptop, I just use my phone. I don't have any credit or debit cards and Idk which poker site I can use in Florida.
 
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Fact is some players are luckier than others, you can't do anything about it.
 
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Are you a beginner?

Are you starting with poker? or do you have quite a few time playing, if you are new, it's too much money to star playing, as I see it, an I recoment fay with not real money chips, if you have a shile playing, you nned to study more, be more patient and follow your hart in the hands, some times you have to risk when it makes sense, but if you got nothing in the flop it has no sense to go all in.
 
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Just take a break for a few day, so you can start refreshed.
 
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Chaviki ive been playing for 6 years.
 
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I've been having a really bad downswing the last 3 days. The first day I lost 50$ and called it a day. I made 1 mistake that I changed, and the second day I lost 200 due to calling raises with AQ and KQ only to fold when the flop would hit 2 2 3 and somebody would have the 2. Today I lost 100 to a 5$ straddle on the button. Him being on my right side I called 5$ with JJ knowing he'd raise to protect his straddle. He raises to 15 and I call. The flop comes 9 10 2. He goes all in and I call to only get busted by aces. I started with a small bankroll and have lost it all. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

There's a lot going on here. As others said it could just be variance and bad luck (which esp live can feel like it lasts a while as we're only seeing maybe 30-40 hands an hour). $50 is nothing at $1/2 live but it's good you realized something was tilting you and you took a break. The $200 loss, it happens but I'm concerned as to why we're calling large raises with AQ and KQ preflop at $1/2 live. Maybe in late position I'd consider calling a 2-8x BB raise with those hands, maybe even up to 9-15x BB raise call with them suited but definetly not getting involved in what sounds like 20x the BB worth of raises pre flop...we're defintely running into hands like AA-QQ seeing that kind of action preflop. Fold pre there. Good fold on flop but you could've saved a ton by folding preflop to big raises.

Good read on the straddle, lots of straddlers live def raise when it comes back to them but with JJ knowing that straddlers will raise preflop with a wide range, why are we flat calling the raise? With JJ against a straddle raise I'm re-raising to $45-50 to see where we're at. On flop, if he shoves , we've got to consider the straddler is wider ranged anyways and so a set is possible or two pair so definitely at 1/2 live not calling an all in with JJ unless there's a J on the flop unless I'm certain the villian will aggro shove with junk like Q10 or A10 there. Bad call on your part. Be prepared to lose, it happens...a lot.

I'm not sure if I should quit poker or maybe build my bankroll up a bit more. I can't tell if I'm a bad poker player or I've just gotten unlucky these past few days. I started 1/2 no limit with 50$ built it up to 400 and now I'm down 600

Could be a mix of both. If you like poker, like others are saying consider studying/reading up more and maybe play some micro stakes online. You can see a ton of hands online for cheap. Lots of us play online and live and I'll say without a doubt that being able to play both online and live helps one's game. You built $50 to $400 live ? That's just luck. Down $600? That's only 3 buy ins. I've been playing live in casinos for about a year off and on while playing online too. I've had nights at live $1/2 where I've turned $200 into $900 and had nights where I couldn't hit a flop to save my life then get a hand and get sucked out on by a 2 outer in $1000 pots to go down $600 in one hand. Ask around here, others have even bigger bad beat stories. Don't sweat the small losses and if losing $200 at $1/2 live really gets you..you need to play with friends at home or play micros online until you can grind or save some money you're ok with burning. Whenever I do play live I bring 2 bullets (2 buy ins at 100BBs so $200 a buy in) which means you need to be ok with losing a couple hundred in a night there and set a tolerance loss (for me it's 1-2 buy ins live right now, for others might be 3-4 or 5 or 6).



I know for a fact if I played 1000 hands that I'd end up making more money then I started with but that's assuming I have a huge bankroll. I make the right moves and when I have a good hand I value bet correctly but I guess I played scared due to a small bankroll

Not a fact. Not trying to be sarcastic or a jerk, but 1000 hands is nothing. We can see 1000 hands 2-3 hrs multi tabling online. Live? That's about 30 hours of play. Sometimes we run like god and do well in a few hands, other times we can't hit flops or have hands hold up on rivers for endless hands. But you say maybe you're playing scared? Maybe. But you're also saying you value bet correctly and people still get there right? That's good. Make em pay. But your earlier post indicates you aren't making the right moves and that''s costing you.

ATC play?

ATC = Any Two Cards. Meaning ATC play is when you see people who "didn't come here to fold" and play a ton of hands.

Chaviki ive been playing for 6 years.
Live? Online? Home games? Do you track your sessions using a spreadsheet or App? Are you up overall? Down overall? Breakeven? What's your hourly? If you've been playing $1/2 live for 6 years you would have seen well over 1000 hands and would likely be at least a small winner if you say you're making the right moves.

Even i am not cash player,i think you need at least 20 buy in bankrolls each stake..so if you play 1/2 no limit..you needed at least 4.000$ to play..thats why i told you that you used very agressive bankroll management,even i understand that its the lowest stakes of your casino..

Eh live is different. It's hard for a lot of players to get the capital to set aside $4K in one swoop for live poker. Also there's less hands, it's mostly full ring, and many people don't play more than a few times a month live. All that together probably good to have least $1600 or so ready to dedicate to just $1/2 live then build it up with winnings over time.
 
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I've been playing home games and I was constantly playing with friends before I started playing live , and sneaking into the poker room at my local room since I was 16. I know I've played over 1000 hands but that's when I didn't even know what position meant. I've recently put some time into studying abc poker and going more in depth with things I need improvement on but what I meant by my comment was that if I were to play 1000 hands with what I know now I'd be getting my money's worth for a fact. At my casinos 1/2 table you'll always find 2-3 players who raise to 18$ with A9 suited or go all in with pocket 6's or 8's. the man on the button who had recently raised from his straddle had previously raised to the same amount of blinds to A10. Which is why I assumed he had the same hand when I saw a 10 high flip and he was betting practically pot in position. Either he had the 10 with a high kicker or a bluff since he was in good position. I play amazing but sometimes they get the right hands, on the right straddle, in the right position with the right amount of money in the pot and my hand will usually be above average. I love constructive criticism but I think I played pretty well.
 
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Regardless you made a lot of sense and as I read everybody's posts I think my main issue would be that I should've raised pre flop. I thought if I limped in with JJ and hit a J that'd I'd be able to squeeze him for his entire stack if an ace popped up. I also should've saved up to about 1,600 before I even sat down so I would play poker instead of like a nit who's scared of losing his bankroll
 
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And I know what ATC meant but I misread it and thought he was calling me an atc player lol
 
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Try to play zoom micro tournaments, if you see more flops you will be able to read your opponents hands, and try to study a little bit more
 
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I would stop wasting money. Invest instead in an online coach who can monitor your game.Once it is sorted, go back to the cash games.
online poker is brutal. Opponents feed off those with little online experience.
The winners have a steady winrate and can withstand variance.
They they have played hundreds of thousands of hands.
 
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Perhaps you re not doing anything wrong at all.

But wait until you have bad luck 2 MONTHS in a row. I have such experience. And listen to poker pros - they have had such thing too.

So your 3 days are nothing compared what could come.
 
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