Avoiding tilt.

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I'm currently building up a bankroll with styro, and as a solid player I usually don't have trouble following Jesus' bankroll management formula. I buy in with a certain amount depending on the table, and then double my buy in and quit. The problem lies in that if i take a really bad beat it is hard for me to leave the table, and every hand I get involved in I try to win everything I lost from the one hand back in that hand. Any tips..?
 
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Not other than "don't do that."

The upside is that with experience - tens of thousands of hands played - you will have had so many bad beats laid on you that you won't be as affected anymore. Understanding that inside straights hit once in ten on the river means understanding that 10% of the time, you WILL lose in those situations. Over a very long course, you'll get less and less affected by it.
 
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i understand that i welcome a call just as much as a fold when he's making the wrong play, but when it comes down to a situation where i know what he holds (i even called it), i know what i hold, and am making the perfect play and advertise what i have so that he has reason to not call yet he still does and catches it, it is upsetting... i just need to see the +gain instead of the -value..
 
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When I begin to play bad because I have taken a couple of bad beats, I usually start listening to some good music. I know it takes away some of your focus from the game, but atleast that A10 doesn't look so good when the pot has been raised in fron of you.
Ofcourse you could also take a break to get your game back on track, but sometimes the tables are just to good to be left alone.
 
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Lederer has always stressed that in poker, you have to be "in the moment"
what he means by that is that you're thinking about the decision you have to make NOW. You can't be influenced by what happened last hand, or the hand that happened 100 hands ago - all that matters is now.
Easier said than done, i know, but controlling your emotions and concentrating on your current hand/decision/situation is something that every expert poker player is a master at.
When i tilt i just step back, sit out and go do something else for a while then come back.
I don't have the emotional control to hold back my anger or frustration or whatever - i make bad decisions when im tilting.
So my solution is to walk away until i've forgotten about it! :)
sometimes i'll play some rainbow six or go nuts on my punching bag, or do 50 push ups or anything to let my anger out, and to forget about the tilting!
 
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Heh, play a lot of freerolls - you'll get endless bad beats from idiots calling with nothing... it'll quickly start to get you more used to those beats.
 
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take a day or several days off, even that may not work. I lost 3 SnG's in a row to come in 4th to horrendous bad beats ( in the 3rd someone pushed all in on a steal into my BB with J,2, I had AA & he caught 2 pair ) I've found that bad beats come in bunches & its just best to stop playing. After those 3 in a row I quit for the day, did some chores & played some counter strike.

The next day I fire up a new SnG very 1st hand I'm delt QQ in the BB, instead of feeling happy about my great hand I get a feeling of dread. A few limpers & 1 re raise before me, I make it 200 to go ( starting stacks are 1000 ) I get 1 caller. The flop comes 6, 8, 10 rainbow I lead out with a 300 bet & get check raised all-in. I call & villan shows 7,9 of course. I'm out very 1st hand & I'm now right back into tilt mode.

I'm now taking a week off from online poker, when I'm playing on tilt even if I'm playing well I NEVER win. When you go into a hand expecting someone to catch a miracle flop to beat you I find that 9 times out of 10 they will do just that.
 
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YOu actually should like a call MORE than you like a fold if calling is the wrong play. Because if folding is the correct play, then you gain nothing. If you give an inside straight a 5:1 pot odds, and he calls the turn bet, and hits, he will pick up the pot, but you'll win money from the donk play more often than not. Just don't get angry. Keep with it.
 
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joosebuck said:
i understand that i welcome a call just as much as a fold when he's making the wrong play, but when it comes down to a situation where i know what he holds (i even called it), i know what i hold, and am making the perfect play and advertise what i have so that he has reason to not call yet he still does and catches it, it is upsetting... i just need to see the +gain instead of the -value..

the worst part of this is knowing he's drawing to the straight, KNOWING it, then calling his bet/raise on the river. This is what gets me tilted more than anything. Get disciplined to lay down the hand, and it will save you money in the long run. Also, I've gotten into the habbit of making pot sized bets often - which almost ALWAYS causes the next caller in line (if they are on almost any draw) to get incorrect pot odds to call.
 
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