Attacking limpers at 10nl

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Hello. This is my first post on cardschat. I have lurked and read many many posts here and feel like there are a bunch of great players on this site. I Am currently playing 10nl FR and i stay 100bb deep or more. The situation that seems to be giving me trouble is when I am in good position(cutoff or button) and there are 1-3 limpers ahead of me. I have been experimenting with raising a pot size bet and c-betting the a lot of good boards with almost ATC. If I'm routinely getting one caller because of my slightly LAGy image, what is the range of hands I should be raising with in these spots? Should I be looking to limp with any hands in this spot? Thanks for your help.
 
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At 10nl I think it depends on how sticky your opponents are with their weak holdings. If the limpers call often and rarely fold to flop bets then you need to either flop something or be willing to test them with muliple barrels (not generally a good strategy at $10nl since players who don't fold the flop will often hold on.) If they fold to flop bets often, then ATC is fine.

As for limping behind I think small pocket pairs and middle suited connectors have more value if you limp behind as they'll pay you off when they hit. Just don't get too excited if your connectors flop only one pair with no draws though.
 
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I agree with what Ninelions said, watch out with SC though, if you're not sure about them then just stick to PP.

Against the fish, you should be trying to isolate them IP, but try and do it with cards that have good chances of giving you the lead when you hit top pair like Q9s or K8o or stuff like that (the more limpers the tighter, go wild against the whales), then all you have to do is value bet. If you miss against multiple opponents, checking is the best option the vast majority of the time.
 
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What about:

What should I do with the more marginal hands like K5o Q6o J8o 10-7 etc? Is it too spewy to be raising with these if I feel I could get heads up or maybe pick up the dead money after 2-3 limpers or should I just be folding these? I have had mixed results but it almost feels like I'm winning medium pots with my cbets or getting into tough spots when my cbet is called. Also a side note, I tend to be more careful with an UTG limper. Is it wrong to assume more strength from an UTG limp?
 
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Thats maybe a little wide for me, but if you're up against a really big fish, then I guess you go down to those types of hands (maybe not 10-7), all you have to do is hit the flop harder than your opponent, too small kickers might get you in trouble more often though.

Don't be careful against a UTG limper (unless the play seems unusual for that specific player). If the guy plays 80/2, then you should only be careful when he raises.

Btw winning medium size pots is better than nothing, and maybe the tough spots aren't as tough as you think, they really do call down with crap. You could try posting a hand or 2 and get advice from better players than me
 
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Madmansam said:
What should I do with the more marginal hands like K5o Q6o J8o 10-7 etc?(throw away ASAP) Is it too spewy to be raising with these(yes) if I feel I could get heads up or maybe pick up the dead money after 2-3 limpers or should I just be folding these. I have had mixed results but it almost feels like I'm winning medium pots with my cbets or getting into tough spots when my cbet is called. Also a side note, I tend to be more careful with an UTG limper. Is it wrong to assume more strength from an UTG limp?
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Look to red.
Aside from that, you should not be playing so loose at that limit.
Take a look at this, very good stuff here.
https://www.cardschat.com/f49/important-aspects-tricks-beginner-intermediate-player-68259/
 
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It really depends how often they limp. Personally, I would raise any Kx or Qx pretty often IP, and depending on how my opponents react; it could start becoming ATC. If multiple people call every time, ATC should be tightened up significantly. As long as you are getting people isolated, I don't really see a problem with raising every time. Note: people will start calling you with less because they will think you're a *****.
 
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GrimlyGrim said:
It really depends how often they limp. Personally, I would raise any Kx or Qx pretty often IP, and depending on how my opponents react; it could start becoming ATC. If multiple people call every time, ATC should be tightened up significantly. As long as you are getting people isolated, I don't really see a problem with raising every time. Note: people will start calling you with less because they will think you're a *****.
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I play micros and I'll tell you that they are always calling with less IMO. ;)
 
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Thanks shinedown

I just feel like sometimes I am missing out on some value with these weakish limpers ahead of me. I have read (and just reread) that post by chuckts. I am familiar with and follow all of those concepts he has listed. Played pretty tagish as I moved up through 2nl and 5nl and just started playing 10nl and I think i am probably getting a little reckless. I usually fold K-10 KJo A10o A9o in early to mid position as I am aware of and try to stay off of dominated hands. However if I'm on the button and only have limpers ahead of me are these hands profitable to raise and or what ranges are u raising?
 
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Sometimes there is not a thing you can do about the limpers. You raise and 2/3 of them will call. Limping is not my true nature, but at times I can limp along with them and if I don't hit my hand big it's a real easy post flop fold to a bet.
 
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