AQ 3Bet Pot BB vs SB

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TheBeard

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

CO ($100)
Button ($112.90)
Hero (SB) ($144.75)
BB ($157.50)
UTG ($179.85)
MP ($328.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q
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, A
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4 folds, Hero raises $2.50, BB raises $9, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($20) 5
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, 6
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, Q
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $12, Hero raises $27, BB calls $15

Turn: ($74) 2
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $38, Hero calls $38

River: ($150) J
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $82.50 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $150

Results below:
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hffjd2000

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My question here sir is why raise on the flop if you check on the turn????
Anyway, I think you have reasonable pot odds in calling on the river.
 
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Why not push on turn? because he can have AQ or KQ. But also it can be AA, KK so I cant tell you 100% what is correct play, because I never played nl100 ;/
 
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My gut tells me to call this river. Blind vs blind situation, he is playing it way too aggressively for aa or Kk. Aa and Qq is unlikely because you have one of each yourself. You check raised the flop. I would have bet the turn. But, he can't feel too good about betting the turn after your check raise. But he does. Then the river he ships. That type of betting is nuts or air. What could he 3bet preflop that makes a strong hand by the river. Jj? Seems like air to me. I would call.
 
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The check call on the turn was weak... I would rather check raise or fold if you put him in a really strong hand (AA, KK or a set on the flop). When commited to the pot like that, I would call the river.

But... we'll never know the result :D
 
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Maybe he had AK of clubs? The way he was betting it makes sense. His call on the flop makes sense since he has a backdoor flush, 2 over cards and position.

I don't think he would make such a large preflop raise with KK or AA because when you have those hands on the BB and everyone folds around to SB raising you, it is the perfect time to trap. And if he really had that he would probably check in the end that jack is a scary card.

Or he could obviously have nothing at all that depends on what kinda read you had on him. These are the sort of hands where playing big stack is tough.

If I were you I would have raised the turn and committed myself to the pot assuming you have enough bankroll that one bust isn't a really big deal.
 
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I don't think the villain is playing overly aggressive for KK or AA. He's repping KK or AA anyway you dice it. The only weird move is the all in on the river - without a flush it seems like a really oddball bet.

My perspective if I was the villain: Hero makes a strong raise, but I have AA KK. So I feel like I can raise and get a call. I do.

On the flop, Hero checks to me. I can probably get away with a little raise and get a call even if the Hero missed. Hero is saying "I want to be in this hand" with the raise call on the flop, no reason to give up the ghost here. Just a touch more than half the pot would be spot on.

Surprise, the Hero repops me $15 on top. This pretty much narrows his range down to AQ, KQ, QQ, or something dumb like 55 or 66 - though I'm not too worried about those. I'm beating most of his range. On top of that, I feel like QQ would often be 4-betting pre-flop, so while it's still a possibility it's less likely.

Turn comes. The check to me is a bit ambiguous. QQ here would probably be trying another half-pot-ish bet in hopes of a re-raise. It's an odd spot for a trap. This looks more like defensive pot control. I'm probably ahead, and I can probably bet about half the pot and get a call. Which I do.

River. Still safe with KK or AA. The Hero checks to me again. I probably can't get much more money if any out of him. He may have even had AK and missed entirely and just called off the turn super loose. Or maybe JJ. A half pot bet would be the standard here, I only have a little more than half pot. I may as well go for it. Maybe I'll get another call if he has AQ/KQ.


My guess - unless the villain said to himself "I'm going to rep AA this hand" right from the pre-flop, he had it. That's a tough line to bluff with a check-raise on the flop and a call on the turn.
 
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If you raise flop, raise bigger and lead out on turn or just don't raise on the flop.

I think he put you on a steal and never took you off it and outplayed you on the river.

Why would AA or KK shove on that river? WHY? If I was villian this is my thought process.

SB is making a move on me by raising, I am going to raise and see if he folds.

Ok villian flat calls

Flop comes Q56 rainbow, great flop to continuation bet on so lets CB. Then I get a weak raise from villian and I know that villian knows that I know that is a good board to CB on so villian bluff raised me to try and steal the pot, so I flat call to see what happens on the turn.

Villian checks to me, so I was right, he is weak. So I bet again and hero flat calls me, kind of has me thinking but I still think villian is weak from the line he is taking.

Now for the river, villian checks to me again which means he is scared, so I shove all my chips in and watch him fold to my air, muhahahahaha.

You either had a weak hand that you would fold to an all in bet, or you were trapping him is what your line says and you were more than likely just weak and not trapping in a SB vs BB situation.
 
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Poker is for the brave men players and if you play precariously will be defeated. Lucky RIVER!
 
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Poker is for the brave men players and if you play precariously will be defeated. Lucky RIVER!
Yeah, poker is all about feeling macho while you play. Who cares about secondary stuff like making good decision or winning money?
 
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think outside the defects that may have reached into the different streets of betting in that board can not fold on the river.
Air is very hand to analyze, because we do not know how he plays the big blind. I think there turn to leave gambling. regards
 
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