Can anyone even beat pokerstars 25nl zoom tables?

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I have been trying to get back to poker for 4-5 months now. I used to be a small winning player at 200nl a long time ago. Now I can't beat shit in cashgames. I do know bots are out there and all. but what I know PS is actively trying to root the evil out. So mostly other human beings are crapping on my head. I am watching videos, going through my handhistory, trying to implement GTO, but to no avail. Money just flows through the gutter to the gutter. I am really curious to know anyone who can beat this level even by just rakeback. This is basically just a rant with a hint of wonder on those magical 25nl pros.
 
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Have you been beating zoom at 10nl, 5nl? If not drop down and make sure you can beat that before trying 25nl. Games have gotton much tougher even in the last 2 years. As you've found beating 200nl in the past doesn't mean very much these days as online is much tougher.
Zoom games are ultra aggressive and high variance so there are much easier games to be had if you are just trying to build a roll. If you have good hand reading skills and are good at player profiling and adjusting to player types then I'd say you are far better off on regular tables where there will be weaker players and you can see their faults. With zoom you have to rely on very little player information and it is easy to overadjust to small stat samples. Last time I played 25nl zoom it was all aggro 3betting and barreling, if you can cope with that crack on. Nananoko released a 25nl zoom youtube video a couple of years ago but even that is dated now.
 
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I beat nl10 in another site and moved to pokerstars as it has the best software. I know tournaments would be very easy to beat as they have lots of terrible players. But the thing is it's hard for me to leave a challenge alone. I really wanna know how that zoom system ticks and tocks.
It seems this summer stars will reduce rakeback through randomizing it with chests. Maybe just hit the bullet and move to partypoker with their 40% rakeback.
 
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Now poker a lot of players who play for good luck.
I think that's the problem
 
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Try smaller stakes and study more, i don't think you can apply a GTO strategy and lose so maybe you are doing wrong and that is very dangerous, the tables are a lot harder than they used to be
 
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Try smaller stakes and study more, i don't think you can apply a GTO strategy and lose so maybe you are doing wrong and that is very dangerous, the tables are a lot harder than they used to be

i need to learn about GTO what is that and do u know any youtube videos or threads here talking about it
it came up few times before but i rly didnt focus on it
 
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i need to learn about GTO what is that and do u know any youtube videos or threads here talking about it
it came up few times before but i rly didnt focus on it

all the videos i watch about gto are in spanish so i can't help you,basically playing gto you are doing always the move with the best ev+ but most of the people think that gto is shove the river with bluffs :D:D
 
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I would say if you're coming back to the game after a layoff, start at 1 or 2 regular 6 max tables (non zoom).
 
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How many tables are you playing at once?
 
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Pokerwithriske is currently running 25NL zoom challenge on twitch. He is NL200 player, he is saying that he over bluffs a lot and loses because players have no idea about post flop ranges and he assumes they do. He might be there at least a week or so still.
 
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I beat nl10 in another site and moved to pokerstars as it has the best software. I know tournaments would be very easy to beat as they have lots of terrible players. But the thing is it's hard for me to leave a challenge alone. I really wanna know how that zoom system ticks and tocks.
It seems this summer stars will reduce rakeback through randomizing it with chests. Maybe just hit the bullet and move to partypoker with their 40% rakeback.

That's a huge statement, the terrible players are usually gone in the first hour, then it isn't as easy as you think it is to win, if it was then everyone would win every game they play.

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