Any way I don`t call here?

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Situation is 1/2 NL live in Bally`s in AC, NJ. Full table, not overly agressive, by not nitty either. I`ve won three hands already without a showdown by hitting flops or playing big pairs, nothing monstrous. I`m two off the button and pick up A K o/s and raise to 12, the high end of the normal raise level so far, and get 4 callers.... the buttton, BB and two mid position guys. Flop comes down A A 2 rainbow, its checked to me and I toss out $25 to see if there`s another ace out there. I get one caller, a mid position guy. Turn is a 9s making two spades on the board, villian throws in 50. I call. River is another 2 and villian goes all-in for $178. Is there any way I don`t call here? Should I have re-raised on the turn? I have the full house and I figure he has the same, seems like an obvious call. Anything anyone has to say just let it fly, I`m very open to comment here.
 
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If you ever fold here u might as well as give up on poker.
Sure it sucks he turned up with 22(im guessing from the tone of the post :)) but u have to pay him of every time with the third nuts.
 
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Without stack sizes it's impossible to know what your bet sizing 'should' have been. You are only losing to 22/A9 so you have to call here.
 
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I think you have to call. If he doesn't have A9 or 22 you have at least a split pot. If he doesn't have an A its yours. A9 or 22 shouldn't have called your raise so I'd put him on a pair 99+
 
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lol this seems tricky...this is an obvious call you have a full house here you cant fold it..you have to pray he is bluffing or at worst , has an A.
don't think he has 22..chances are minimal although i've seen this happen and from his point of view he is praying you have the A if he has 22..but chances are minimal...a9 could be possible if he is a loose donk
 
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There's no way you can get away from this, understand this guy would have played A10, A8, any A and such in the same way. Wether he has 22 or A9, you can't fold. And if this iss a bad beat, people who say online is rigged, look at this hand. And can you post the final result of this hand?
Although, assumed it was a bad beat.
 
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You call of course. As for pushing on the raise on 4th, I would consider it (to make him pay for the fl draw), but would need more info. Calling it down is the safest of course.
 
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You know, in this case i would have played it the same as you did, and would definitly call on the river. You have Ace King, and u know that if the other guy has an ace, he will call any allin you give him. If he doesnt have it, if he is raising he is probably bluffing you!! Why bluffing you? well because if he doesnt have the ace but another pair, he would just be check, calling, hoping that he is beating you. He wouldnt be hanging himself if he know there was a chance of him losing big time. Now since he is raising, i would just call since it might be a bluff, and hopefully he will follow up with that bluff on the river. If i had raised him on the turn, and he was bluffing, he would fold to me, and there goes my chance of winning more money. Now, if he checked on the turn, i would definitly raise him, cause i want him to put money in the pot, the more the better for me right! cause im 99 percent sure im winning here. Plus, if he is a veryy verry bad player he would be could be going for the inside straight, and i dont want that. Plus you never know if this guy could have a flush possibility but i seriously doutb it considering the circumstances.
 
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Thank You all for your responses. As many of you picked up from the tone of my post, I called instantly, believing it would be a split pot. To my horror he turned over A 9 giving him a higher full house and the pot. At times like this I like to share these hands to see if I missed something or if I could have played it differently. Here I think I wanted to share this hand just to ease the pain. When the second deuce hit on the river I automatically figured a split pot. Sorry i could not remember the stack sizes of those in the hand, I do remember two small stacks at the table though none were in this hand. This loss pretty much took me out of my game mentally and after two more hands I picked up and moved to 2/4 limit and basically played on auto-pilot the rest of the night. I still can`t see any way out of this hand at any point, I doubt I would bet much more on the flop though hitting trips is always a dangerous situation, I feel he would have called me down. It kind of reminds me of the Gus Hanson commercial for Full Tilt, when he`s walking back to his room thinking, "some nights you make all the right moves....make all the right reads.....dominate play at yout table...... and it still isn`t enough". Though Gus has more talent and moxy in his fingernail than I have alltogether, I kinda get that empty feeling from this night. Oh well, there`s always another hand. Thanks for letting me vent. Back to the tables in AC this weekend, beats like this can only make the wins that much sweeter.
 
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I would definitely have called in your position. Before reading the final result, I put him on an A as well. As long as it is not A9, you know you will at least split it. Unfortunately, he had the one hand that could beat you. Sometimes, there is not much you can do.

As for the re-raise, I don't think it helps. With him having Ax, you probably are not getting him away from the hand. With his A9, he either calls the re-raise or pushes all-in there. You would then be in the same position with one card to go.
 
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