Any 40bb buy-in cash game strategy?

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I know that 100bb buy-in is better for skill but I'm so stressed about set-trap (Seriously, I do hatred set..... I don't know how to detect a set. ) So.. to counter (?) a set trap (drop implied odds by being short stack) and to minimize the loss.. I try to do Short Stack Strategy (Actually, It's middle stack.. but most poker rooms don't allow to join a table with 20bb... sad)

But I don't know how.. how to get a profit.... please... Any guide about 40bb buy-in Cash game strategy? (2NL. So micro stack guide I mean... I do hate SET!!!!!!)
 
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40bb cash game strategy:
- Play very tight preflop. Only play premium hands like AJ, AQ, AK, KQ and 77+. Fold everything else, including hands like AT, KJ, QJ, 22-66, T9s, etc.
- Make a big raise preflop: open to 5x + (x per limper). So if you're UTG you should open to $10 at a $1/$2 table and if you're on the BTN and there's 3 limpers before you, then you should open to $16
- Plan to get your stack in every time you hit. For example, if you have AK, you raised to $12 preflop and got 2 callers, you've got $68 behind and the board comes KQQ, then you should bet like $20 on the flop and bet the other $48 on the turn. If someone happens to have Qx and hits trips, or JT and hits their straight, then bad luck, but you should be happy getting it in on this flop.
- Plan to 3bet shove in squeeze spots (when there's a raiser + callers) a little looser than usual. So for example, you have 99, someone opens to $10 and gets 2 callers, you should shove all-in for $80. The fold equity alone makes this profitable.

Good luck with playing a mid-stack strategy! This can be fairly profitable if you play it well.
 
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Now I'm not well versed in no limit Holdem strategy but I find it hard to believe that 5x is going to be profitable in any buy in level. I would expect it to be the inverse with opens being more in line with the minimum bet.
 
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Now I'm not well versed in no limit Holdem strategy but I find it hard to believe that 5x is going to be profitable in any buy in level. I would expect it to be the inverse with opens being more in line with the minimum bet.

Playing online SnG's/MTT's against solid TAG regs with stack sizes between 15bb and 40bb, I'd agree with you, since that's all about min-raising to steal the blinds and then 3bet shoving against the min-raiser.

But when you're playing live $1/$2 NLHE against loose passive players - the kind of people who do a lot of limp-calling preflop and rarely 3bet without a hand they're willing to stack off with - then raising to 2x preflop is going to create a family pot that will get you into a lot of trouble: the flop will come K65, the guy with 74o who flopped an OESD isn't going anywhere, neither is the guy with K6o who flopped 2 pairs or the guy with A2s who flopped the nut flush draw, and you're going to get into a lot of trouble with your AK.

I think that a 5x raise is actually pretty standard in low stakes live NLHE, given how loose everyone is and how common multiway pots are.
 
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Being a short stack cuts your winrate. It allows less room for post-flop play and reduces your skill edge. You need to learn how to play 100bb deep poker :). It's actually not that hard to tell when someone has a set. When you double barrel and get raised on the turn, just fold. It's going to be a set, straight, flush, or two pair 95% of the time from the general population. Also if you get raised multi-way on a dryish/low board. By buying in short, you're just trying to avoid the problem. You also won't improve your postflop game much. Hand reading, bluffing, bluff-catching, etc.
 
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can limp and see if youll hit the flop if you do chances are youll get paid
 
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Being a short stack cuts your winrate. It allows less room for post-flop play and reduces your skill edge. You need to learn how to play 100bb deep poker :). It's actually not that hard to tell when someone has a set. When you double barrel and get raised on the turn, just fold. It's going to be a set, straight, flush, or two pair 95% of the time from the general population. Also if you get raised multi-way on a dryish/low board. By buying in short, you're just trying to avoid the problem. You also won't improve your postflop game much. Hand reading, bluffing, bluff-catching, etc.

+1 to this.

Although it's somewhat useful to know how mid-stack strategies work, it's far more important to learn how to play with 100bb stacks. Like Minh said, it's really not that hard to tell if a 2NL villain has a set. If they call the flop and raise the turn, they probably have 2pr or better. If they check-raise the flop, they probably have 2pr or better. Generally 2NL villains will just call-call-call with TPTK, so if you get raised on any street when you bet-bet-bet, then expect to be up against 2pr or better.

Also at 2NL, if you have TPTK or an overpair without the initiative and someone takes the bet-bet-bet line against you where every bet is 70% pot or higher, then you're probably behind and you should seriously consider a fold. Most players will only bet 2 streets and check 1 street with top pair. If they are going to bet 3 streets with top pair, it will generally be very small bet sizes (less than half pot on the turn and river).
 
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The semi bluff check jam is the secret to a positive winrate when short stacked. Other than opening up that way, you have to realize you don't have the odds to play a lot of hands so you should be 3bet or folding preflop unless you have high card value. Other than that its the same game.
 
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Being a short stack cuts your winrate. It allows less room for post-flop play and reduces your skill edge. You need to learn how to play 100bb deep poker :). It's actually not that hard to tell when someone has a set. When you double barrel and get raised on the turn, just fold. It's going to be a set, straight, flush, or two pair 95% of the time from the general population. Also if you get raised multi-way on a dryish/low board. By buying in short, you're just trying to avoid the problem. You also won't improve your postflop game much. Hand reading, bluffing, bluff-catching, etc.

I already know that 40bb strategy doesn't increase my poker skill overall. however, before I learn 100bb strategy and apply it. I must increase my bankroll. I have only $2.8...
Plus, no freeroll for me (pokerstars doesn't have good freerolls and I don't have a time to play long freeroll) that's why I desperately want to play 40bb strategy.
SnG?. oh god.. I didn't get money at least 10 times a row.
 
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I already know that 40bb strategy doesn't increase my poker skill overall. however, before I learn 100bb strategy and apply it. I must increase my bankroll. I have only $2.8...
Plus, no freeroll for me (pokerstars doesn't have good freerolls and I don't have a time to play long freeroll) that's why I desperately want to play 40bb strategy.
SnG?. oh god.. I didn't get money at least 10 times a row.

If you're worried about BRM then $2.80 is not nearly enough to handle to risk at a ring table. Min buyin is .80 so you 3.5x buyins only. Playing as a short stack you are going to be called with much wider ranges and forced to get it all in more often - which means you'll be playing high variance poker and getting felted pretty regularly. Trust me, after 15 minutes with no premiums and you're now at .55 from the original .80 without playing a hand you'll feel pretty inclined to start tilting and jamming it light. It's very different psychologically to lose your blinds as 40bb player than a 100bb player.

If I 3bet someone with 100+ bb with JJ and he 4bets me it's very difficult to call. If a short stack does so it's an insta call, not just because he's eager to get it all in and less likely to be holding the goods that dominates me but also because I won't have to worry about making a tough fold if there is an AKQ flop.

Stick to sit in goes. Losing 10 in a row not a big deal. Just play the $.10 360 man sngs and $.25 45/90 player sngs.
 
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I already know that 40bb strategy doesn't increase my poker skill overall. however, before I learn 100bb strategy and apply it. I must increase my bankroll. I have only $2.8...
Plus, no freeroll for me (pokerstars doesn't have good freerolls and I don't have a time to play long freeroll) that's why I desperately want to play 40bb strategy.
SnG?. oh god.. I didn't get money at least 10 times a row.

Maybe you can build some bankroll playing lowest limit Holdem? Less risk to lost all with some bad sessions.
 
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having a short stack to minimize losses is playing scared, imo.... it's playing as a loser rather than a winner....

what if u hit AA....? the you double up 50bb, instead of 100bb... or 100bb instead of 200bb.... not too smart...

i am constantly rebuying if my stack falls below the max buyin.... in fact, if i see a consistently short stacked player i mark them as a fish...
 
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having a short stack to minimize losses is playing scared, imo.... it's playing as a loser rather than a winner....

what if u hit AA....? the you double up 50bb, instead of 100bb... or 100bb instead of 200bb.... not too smart...

i am constantly rebuying if my stack falls below the max buyin.... in fact, if i see a consistently short stacked player i mark them as a fish...
If I hit AA, and If I raises. everybody folds. or call to set mining. So. I won small money and lose big money If I have AA.
 
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