Originally Posted by Mr Sandbag
I've noticed a trend lately among $1/$2 NL live players. They're becoming increasingly more passive pre and post flop. I was a regular player up until about a year ago when I stopped playing completely due to other things going on in my life. When I started up again earlier this year, it was like an entirely different game. Both the weak and average players are no longer betting flops, even with two pair. They're simply content with calling down to the river with what is most likely the winning hand. It's like they are allergic to money and want to minimize what they make when they have a good hand. Furthermore, it's becoming increasingly more common for players to NOT RAISE preflop with any premium hand...ever. When somebody raises, they don't even reraise but call. It's like a slowplay that never comes to fruition.
Does anyone else experience this? I've been having trouble adjusting my style to this sort of behavior. I am unable to bet anyone off a hand, but since they are playing almost every hand the same way, I can't tell if they're on a draw or have two pair!
Any thoughts or tips?
From what I am hearing, it sounds like you are having trouble to adjusting your passive live players.
My tips would be:
1. If you cant get people off of mediocre hands (lets say tpbk) Then the first thing would be to NEVER fire a river barrel, unless of course you know they have alot of mid and small pairs that they'll call turn barrel with.
2. If they are slowplaying, unfortunately that does naturally balance their range a bit, there's nothing specifically you can do about that, however it does open up some options...read below.
For instance, you can do something like....Say the player is passive and he slowplays alot, but since he is passive, he also wont bluff much. A good trick to use vs such a player is this. Bet flop, then chk the turn....you see when you check the turn you give him an opportunity to bet, if he takes it, you can strongly consider folding any mediocre hands yourself. IF/WHEN he checks, you have ALOT of information about the nature of his hand, and you can play rivers almost perfectly vs him.
The above is how I would play alot of my "in between" type of hands, like mid pair and bottom pair, weak draws, etc.
In essence, they player opens up alot of "small ball" ways to exploit him, instead of "big ball" (lol) plays, such as big bluffs