All in calls in a flush draw?

So I am playing live in $1-$2 in casino. Been playing good until 6 limpers and I have Q6s in SB, so I called and BB check. Flop is KsJs4c, I check the HJ bets the pot which is $13. I check raise $39 to take it down or at least rep a set. He shoves all in with $89 behind, I am in a tank. So I am behind and I know I have 35% in equity doing the math! I get 2 to 1.

I was so close to fold but I had $500 so I wanted to gamble and walk away if I had won.

I know good poker players would see pot odds and equity but does sometimes gambling be more important in cash game as it can be reloaded and have high rewards?

Fold pre.

When I got into poker years and years and years ago there was a home game I'd play with a guy whose favourite hand was Q6. He always referred to queen six as queer sex because haha funny right. So let's see here you call it off with Q6 because no one check/raise/folds anything with more than 2% equity vs a half stack right. Villain flips over ATss. You spike the offsuit 6 and fade the river. The pot you're scooping is going directly into the rack as you gather the chips. You leave and immediately begin writing a book called check raising in limped pots: KJx twotone edition. It sells millions.

I'm going now. wife.k wife.k wife.k

It seems like you made your decision based on the possible return you would get, and that was the main driver for calling off. I'm sure that this will pay off at times, but you can't argue with math. If you're always playing from behind, it doesn't matter what equity you score, the math will catch up.

i was bb, checked my option

Sorry.

Fold first opportunity.

BenjiHustle said:

Sorry.

Fold first opportunity.

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Never folding the flop to that bet. I like making money.

Great call. Just amazing.

you can call but make sure that when you in the other way around like you are defending from flush draws, you also make a lot of money .

I would fold and fold quick with a flush draw unless I the most chips at the table and can afford to gamble. 33% odds on that card hitting are not very good!

Maybe the check raise 39$ not the best move.You put you on bigger pot and other player can bluff you.Now you have to test your luck.Next time maybe call
13$ and look the turn card.

jeffsmooter1 said:

I would fold and fold quick with a flush draw unless I the most chips at the table and can afford to gamble. 33% odds on that card hitting are not very good!

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You need around 28% equity to call. At a live game this is always a call as played.

call all day if youre pot committed

Hey wait. You didn't check your BB. You called in the SB.

Back to what I said...

Fold pre.

Also, against pretty wide villain range that I figured, we actually have about 41% equity OTF.



Against a more likely all-in range, still not too bad.



Not sure why the check-raise... Doesn't that eliminate the pot odds that you're looking for, putting more at risk than necessary as you draw?

With 6 limpers I don't think I would fold any hand preflop here. After the flop your check raise to a pot size bet was probably a mistake, You didn't have the pot odds and I doubt if you're getting the villain off this hand with that bet. I would have folded there myself but if you wanted to gamble why not just call and at least see the turn?

i will call 2 that was a nice gamble all do it all the time and its pay off sometimes other not

in tournaments this hand shold be imediactely folded, but in cash games this hand is funny to play

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I don't really mind the call preflop, hate the flop action though

I think ya'll are missing the major ingredient here: the pot sized raiser's stack size!

I have no problem with the overcall with Q6s. Right flop, played well, it's profit and you're getting ridiculous odds to do it.

The flop is not exactly great, with the K out there you're assumed behind. But a check raise semi-bluff IS an option. I'm not mad at the move assuming you're not semi bluffing all of your draws. The mistake is that you did it against someone who's a favorite to win and simply cannot flat you. He's not going to fold, he can't flat, and when he raises you are pot committed. If you logic that out you realize that by check raising to $39 you may as well have put in the $89 yourself. Only time I'm check-raising a short stack in this spot is with two pair or better because there's no viable bluff here.


BUT: since you did make the check-raise, and the other guy did go over the pot and you have the pot odds you should be making the call.

BTW, this is where board texture and strategy marry well.

IF you hit 2-pair on a flop with an obvious draw or two, I like a check-raise on the flop. More likely to be credited for a draw and get called off for most value.

IF you hit 2-pair on a dry flop, I like a lead out of over 2/3 or pot size depending on the opponents. You can probably get called off by top pair with a good kicker and then pull some more value down the road.