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How should I be playing these kind of hands from the blinds? I've generally been 3betting depending on the player and number of people in the pot, however I'm wondering if this is bad due to inflating a pot we're playing out of position?
 
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I usually raise to see where Im at depending on, like you said who & how many your facing. But I have extreme confidence in my post flop game. If your not quite the uber aggressive maniac like myself, you may want to just play the hand as you would Arag.

Depending on your rep, often the 3bet will clear the uncommitted.
 
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Always 3-bet unless you're playing a 5/4 nit, which you will almost never see. Flatting is pretty bad, as we have RIO multiway. When we 3-bet, we can take it down pre or with a c-bet. We don't always have to fire out when we miss, and check-folding is alright on certain board textures.
 
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Ace Queen is a go or call AK however especially suited can be a 7x raise to negate your bad position. The thing about aq is it is a huge dog on flops like k-4-9 where the button will be liberal to min raise it with k-10 or kj suited and maybe even 99!! AQ really only plays well on boards of q-2-7. AK is more powerful against the cuttoff or dealers ranges and is a flip against qq or 99 even 56 suited if the player is good and might not even call your 7 x raise unless they had aces or kings which is only bad luck for you if they have aces or if they raised you and you 3 or 4 bet them. They will call you based on their perception of position.
 
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Well, I think 3 bet it is normal thing is, although there are different sitatsii )
 
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albeit under 3 bet come play with 710 luck and win so uniqueness is not)
 
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Ace Queen is a go or call AK however especially suited can be a 7x raise to negate your bad position. The thing about aq is it is a huge dog on flops like k-4-9 where the button will be liberal to min raise it with k-10 or kj suited and maybe even 99!! AQ really only plays well on boards of q-2-7. AK is more powerful against the cuttoff or dealers ranges and is a flip against qq or 99 even 56 suited if the player is good and might not even call your 7 x raise unless they had aces or kings which is only bad luck for you if they have aces or if they raised you and you 3 or 4 bet them. They will call you based on their perception of position.

I don't get how AQ is a huge dog on K94. We whiff the flop, but a c-bet is going to take it down most of the time. And fwiw AQ is almost always ahead of a CO/BTN range, and most of the time their 3-bet calling range. AQ doesn't play that bad on Axx boards, and we need to be able to win in 3-bet pots when we don't have a hand. Of course AK is stronger than AQ, but it doesn't mean AQ is not an auto 3-bet unless villain is a nit raising UTG for example.

AA/KK almost never flat 3-bets/4-bets online. They're usually jamming it in preflop. And if you make your 3-bets 7x, you're going to get called super super wide. 9x minimum IP/OOP.
 
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with AK in the BB and it gets to me with no raize i might even shove if the pot is big enough so if every one foldes i win something.
AQ i would check or raize to 2 bb so the pot gets a bit lorger.
 
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Minh has it right, always 3 betting vs almost anyone that opened from CO/BTN positions. Flatting AQ against majority of EP/MP opens(unless total nits then I might fold EP and flat MP) Also 3 betting AK vs any open unless it is a nit UTG then I might just flat but 3 betting is probably still better.

Almost always 3 betting AK/AQ against any opener if I can squeeze the initial raiser and a caller(s).
 
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I think I've heard Mike Sexton on WPT say that AQ is pretty, but doesn't play so well post flop, so I'd be a bit tight with it. AK, on the other hand, is a hand that you can play more aggressively with confidence.
 
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if there is no raise before you then i will make it 3 times the BB if there is a raise before you then u can Re raise them most often then not you will be holding the best hand.
 
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I like flatting AK vs UTG opens. They value cut themselves every time with tpgk Ax and KQ. 3betting almost seems like a waste... not really sure what it accomplishes vs a tighter EP open unless you need to protect 3bet bluffs vs EP which you probably don't.
 
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Yeah I had this question too thanks for posting
 
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How should I be playing these kind of hands from the blinds? I've generally been 3betting depending on the player and number of people in the pot, however I'm wondering if this is bad due to inflating a pot we're playing out of position?

the way i bet in a free roll i will bet almost all in with pocket rockets or cowboys. or i'll just call. because most of the time there is some one out there will call your all in bet with rags. it happens to me most of the time.
 
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How should I be playing these kind of hands from the blinds? I've generally been 3betting depending on the player and number of people in the pot, however I'm wondering if this is bad due to inflating a pot we're playing out of position?

there's no one answer. who opened? are there calls? what is your image? generally raise to thin out field, but it also polarizes your opponent towards better hands/maybe dominating hnds. if you've seen them all call loosly even against blind 3bet either raise and commit with aks or call with aqo. but i prefer raisin either and tKe it from there, especially if your opponents can be bluffed.
 
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If the majority of discharges and was not raising you can make a minimum raise. If done , you can call the raise 3-4 times
 
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3 bet with continuation bet on the next street.
In some situation you should to use 2 bluff barrels. But only vs normal opponents (VPIP not more 20) and only several time at the one table.
 
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Biggest advice I've gained from this is position awareness when 3betting these hands. Beginning to mix up flatting and 3betting depending on my position, position of the raiser and their stats - different to my default 3bet. Early days, but I'm finding these hands easier to play post flop because of this. Thanks for the advice guys.
 
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Depends on the level. For micro stakes (NL 2, 5 and 10), there's value in 3-betting against late position openers and small blind stealers, not so much value in 3-betting middle position openers and little to no value in 3-betting EP openers. If there's an EP raise and callers, you should 3-bet to narrow the field and get heads up. Your hand increases significantly in value when you play heads up. Beware passive fish that would call an opener from EP and call a 3-bet afterwise. If there's no fold equity from the callers of a multi-way pot, than there's no value in 3-betting at all (you'd play a bigger pot out of position with 2+ players to speak after you) and you should just flat.
 
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It all depends what the table you're playing and what their opponents, sometimes it's better to make a normal call.
 
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even out of position, it's good you control the pot if the beginning of the tournament and take care not to lose too many chips with these hands
 
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I think that you can make re-raise with AK,AQ after raise on MP and button, but if players opening from EP coll is ok
 
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it all depends on your stack and the number of players . if the stack is small it is better to just call . to reduce the number of players is better to make a more substantial raise
 
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Usually two option happen:
1, Somebody call with pair, and win because you have nothing on the flop, turn, river.
2, A, K or Q come up, and you win.

Rarely:

3, The opponent with his pair got a drill or more rarely a full, most rarely a poker.
 
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