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billatx

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I have a problem when open raising AK,AQ,QQ,JJ and being 3bet:
a)IP
b)OOP

How do you play them?
I prefer 4bet-folding them OOP AND call-float IP,whatever the flop is.But i'm not sure i'm doing that right.

Don't tell me it depends on the opponent,because i play Zoom.
 
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I also play zoom and am crushing 6max NL10 with ease over about 100k hands
I use a hud. You will need it because it actually depends on their stats.


I'll let you in on my godly zoom secrets but more will cost!

AA-KK
3 bet everytime from any position. 4 bet KK, get it in always. When you get 3bet with AA, ip I will usually flat. oop I'll 4bet. when ip, on flop i shove vs any raise unless its some dummy flop like JQK lol
Why flatting owns: You have AA and a half stack or less opens AT LEAST 4x and your in position vs him. This spot I prefer flatting.
Couple reasons:
-You will probably stack him anyway because hes short, ur ip and hes raised a more than pot repping a stronger hand.
-If someone squeezes which happens a decent amount in zoom, they are now screwed vs you (you would reraise btw)
-You can bring in someone with 2 face cards who feel they have odds to call n r obv screwed

Theres another exception with KK as well but I don't feel like sharing that one right now.

QQ-JJ
3 Bet every CO,Btn,Blind raise.. Sometimes I will flat UTG if his stats are tight (this is why u need hud cuz if utg is loose i would 3bet)
Fold to 4bet everytime.. Ur against way too strong of a range in micros

AK
3bet oop everytime. when ip, i usually look at villain stats and either raise or flat.
Flatting is fairly profitable with AK, if a villain is looser he has hands like KJ,KQ,AT,AJ,AQ... Hes extremely screwed if a A or K hits and is losing a ton in the long run.. where as if u had 3bet, he jus snap folds it lol
Of course, if he has a fold to 3bet of like 25% and is playing 25/25 its a fairly easy 3bet because he will actually end up calling with those same hands that u r dominating.
 
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I also play zoom and am crushing 6max NL10 with ease over about 100k hands
I use a hud. You will need it because it actually depends on their stats.


I'll let you in on my godly zoom secrets but more will cost!

AA-KK
3 bet everytime from any position. 4 bet KK, get it in always. When you get 3bet with AA, ip I will usually flat. oop I'll 4bet. when ip, on flop i shove vs any raise unless its some dummy flop like JQK lol
Why flatting owns: You have AA and a half stack or less opens AT LEAST 4x and your in position vs him. This spot I prefer flatting.
Couple reasons:
-You will probably stack him anyway because hes short, ur ip and hes raised a more than pot repping a stronger hand.
-If someone squeezes which happens a decent amount in zoom, they are now screwed vs you (you would reraise btw)
-You can bring in someone with 2 face cards who feel they have odds to call n r obv screwed

Theres another exception with KK as well but I don't feel like sharing that one right now.

QQ-JJ
3 Bet every CO,Btn,Blind raise.. Sometimes I will flat UTG if his stats are tight (this is why u need hud cuz if utg is loose i would 3bet)
Fold to 4bet everytime.. Ur against way too strong of a range in micros

AK
3bet oop everytime. when ip, i usually look at villain stats and either raise or flat.
Flatting is fairly profitable with AK, if a villain is looser he has hands like KJ,KQ,AT,AJ,AQ... Hes extremely screwed if a A or K hits and is losing a ton in the long run.. where as if u had 3bet, he jus snap folds it lol
Of course, if he has a fold to 3bet of like 25% and is playing 25/25 its a fairly easy 3bet because he will actually end up calling with those same hands that u r dominating.

How many tables are you playing?What's your winrate?
 
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4 tables..Minimum 3 hours everyday so around 3500 hands/day, on Saturday/Sunday if I'm not busy I will usually play about 8-9 hours so like 11000 hands.. I've always been up at the end of these longer sessions..

Started at NL2 with $100 crushed that In like 3 days. Went to NL5, beat in a week.. I've been playin NL10 for a bit over a 2week now, with a winrate of 5.4 over about 95k hands.. I'll probably be taking a shot at NL25 soon if all goes well..
 
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It depends on opponent. If the only info you have is it's zoom you still know what stakes and stack size. The answer to your question against a random 2nl zoom player with a short stack vs. a 500nl zoom player with a full stack will be completely different. Also if you play much at all you should start getting reads without a HUD. Oh also position kinda matters.
 
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Yea, stacks are a big factor. But you also have to know... "I have JJ I am gonna get it invs all these players" or "I have AK I am gonna fold to a 4 bet from 240 BB stack in the BB but call/shove the 75 BB OTB" or w/e. I am not a zoom player, but I am guessing you have to have a plan like anywhere else.
 
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