AJ vs drunk

guy sits down at my 2/5 table, clearly drunk, still drinking, buys in for $230. First hand he plays im Button with AJ, he's posted from MP.

about 6 limpers up to me, i raise to 25, folds around to him +1 other, three way to the flop.

Flop is Ah,10h,Kd
checked to me, i bet $75
fold
Drunk calls.
Turn, 2h
he checks, i check.
river, 10c
He goes all in for $130.
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Reading these topics make me miss live poker. Can't wait to start doing that a lot more again.

Why'd you check behind ott if he's that short?

DunningKruger said:

Reading these topics make me miss live poker. Can't wait to start doing that a lot more again.

Why'd you check behind ott if he's that short?

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Figured he would check the river almost always, and felt it was more viable for a cheap showdown. Was that wrong?

lukyl said:

Figured he would check the river almost always, and felt it was more viable for a cheap showdown. Was that wrong?

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You opened yourself up for a tough decision if he bet river, in which he did.

lukyl said:

Figured he would check the river almost always, and felt it was more viable for a cheap showdown. Was that wrong?

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Well, yeah. Virtually nothing that's beating you is going to let you see a "cheap showdown" considering he has not much more than a half pot bet left with two more betting rounds to go. You are however letting all kinds of hands you are beating off the hook to either see a cheap showdown or outdraw your hand. Drunk guy with 2nd pair, 3rd pair, a gutshot, a heart, or any combination thereof is going to be pretty interested in seeing that river heh.

If he does check the river your hand is probably best, in which case it was likely best on the turn as well. That would have been the street to bet imo, and your decision otr as played depends on your reasoning for letting the turn check through. That's why I asked.

$225 in the pot, $130 to call.

It's a tough one, and given the situation and lack of information, I honestly don't think I'm strongly leaning one way or another. If I had to answer, I'd probably lay it down, but I'm not happy about it. If it wasn't a 10 I probably would call.

Personally, I think you let your bet sizing got you in a little bit of trouble here. I don't know how deep your stacks are and how this game normally plays, but I would have bet less on the flop, which would allow you to not have to shove on the turn if you wanted to bet the turn, you could have made a smaller bet as well for more information.

Anyways, as it played out, I don't think there is a perfect answer to your question on the river bet, but I am curious to hear the outcome

For anyone interested in result,
I did end up calling, and he turned over AK.
Thought process came down to the fact that he played it so passively any ace seemed highly likely, of which i was in front of barring the A10,AK combos, having eliminated AQ threats on the river.

And for a little extra reading, he ended up busting me when i shoved my remaining $70 into a 4 way $15 call, while i held Pocket 4s.
Went heads up with him and on a board of 7,K,J,A,5 he proudly turned over 72o. Gotta love live poker

Did you ever see the movie the Movie the Hustler with Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason.

BluesPlayer said:

Did you ever see the movie the Movie the Hustler with Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason.

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Nope. Why?

Its an old movie on why people should not play pool, poker or other games of skill when drinking.

Why did you check on the turn when he checked?

I see so many bad players play the drunken guys line.

You checked behind giving them the information to know their ahead so they shove. It makes me laugh because a good player will fold here so it means any value he could get is surely lost with the way he plays. And most of the time is called only by better.

Perhaps he was drunk but he didn't play the hand all that badly, he trapped you and he made sure u told him he didn't have better.


At the end of the day AJ isn't beating much with that board... And bad players will often bluff with Ax or Kx but since you had an A and k doesn't hold to anything with that board a lot of his bluffing hands are out of his range now.

he had a weak ace that became strong with this board or a 10 i think.
its better to fold in my opinion and wait for a better situation to take his chips.
i dont think he is bluffing with a small pocket pair

I played a live game once where a drunk guy sat down.

I can't remember the full action, suffice to say that I was ahead, and he made he hand on the river.

He had called my big PFR raise with Q7o, and cleaned me out with his lucky river shot.

The thing that got me was that once he won, he kept shouting to the table that he couldn't believe how lucky he was, he would no way play that hand if he was sober, he needs to get drunk more often, and so on.

What made it worse was three or four players at the table high fiving him, and rolling with the laughs. I bought in again but after a few hands the banter didn't stop so I left.

I could take the suck out (just) but the drunken bragging really annoyed me. Even drunk guys should be respectful.

enesem said:

I played a live game once where a drunk guy sat down.

I can't remember the full action, suffice to say that I was ahead, and he made he hand on the river.

He had called my big PFR raise with Q7o, and cleaned me out with his lucky river shot.

The thing that got me was that once he won, he kept shouting to the table that he couldn't believe how lucky he was, he would no way play that hand if he was sober, he needs to get drunk more often, and so on.

What made it worse was three or four players at the table high fiving him, and rolling with the laughs. I bought in again but after a few hands the banter didn't stop so I left.

I could take the suck out (just) but the drunken bragging really annoyed me. Even drunk guys should be respectful.

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You should of high fived and encouraged him just like the others guys and sat down and played more with a player that horrible.

He made a mistake playing Q7o but you made a bigger mistake by leaving the table.

IPlay said:

You should of high fived and encouraged him just like the others guys and sat down and played more with a player that horrible.

He made a mistake playing Q7o but you made a bigger mistake by leaving the table.

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Yeah, you are right about that. I thought about staying but I knew I would probably go on tilt, so it was a good time to leave. I wasn't as experienced a player back then.

It`s a hard to fold this hand but u should do it. Tens look rly dangerous and it cant be a bluff. Usually players who go all-in on the river are unexperienced or hold the nuts.

it's an easy fold to a big bet, you're literally not getting a price to call and potentially split with a weaker ace and you're not beating much other than a stone cold bluff, gotta muck it